56 6:47 - Porsche 911 GT2 RS is the new "King of the Ring"

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Porsche 911 GT2 RS in hands of test driver Lars Kern set the fastest ever lap at Nürburgring Nordschleife - 6 minutes and 47 seconds.

This makes the new 700 horsepower rear wheel drive 911 not only fastest Porsche ever (beating Porsche 918 by full 10 seconds), but fastest anything with a numberplate to ever produce a verified time at the Nürburgring.

And nothing comes close. Some publications are referencing the the 6:45.9 time by Nio EP9 as the absolute lap record, but we at FastestLaps know very well that EP9 was and probably still is not road legal and their efforts at Nürburgring were little more than dishonest marketing campaign aimed at more casual enthusiast who can't be bothered to read the small print.

Full announcement from Porsche here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh8_2zQZ3xM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouRvFrIqmSg

3m ago by FastestLaps
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cosimo  1m ago

another angle for the crippled / short-sighted members

https://i.imgur.com/sk52vyC.jpg


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dddd  2m ago

I knew that this car would have an incredible performance level.

Congratulations to Porsche that they play in a proper way.

We will see whether Ferrari answers on apriopriate level with their 488 "SE"...



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sroser  2m ago

6:43 is still the record anyway.

 

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saxy  2m ago

Not a production car


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jaegermeister  2m ago @saxy

+1 definitely not a production car


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cosimo  2m ago @jaegermeister

aren't they all ? including the ones tested by sport auto and co ?

https://i.imgur.com/QYOHkKk.jpg

oh look! some bits and pieces are missing in the back lol

https://i.imgur.com/IXBbpTF.jpg


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cosimo  2m ago

when you place the engine in the wrong end and ask your customers to grab the keys and go for a test drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjcZxS_9Ipc

it must be more exciting in the 2wd where it could take off like an airplane and few seconds later drops down like a bomb causing a chernobyl disaster

https://static.businessinsider.com/image/5579dbebeab8eab37749d053/image.jpg


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cosimo  2m ago

918 will not be faster, it's just a stupid rumor sung by vw fanboys to make it look like this car cannot be beaten until its successor makes a debut in the coming years.

keep the jokes coming, this king of the zig around hotwheels track is just all talk with piss poor factory cars that are highly modified under the skin to achieve better lap times for youtubers to start their cheering followed by dipsh*ts on fl.


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A156  3m ago

So the fastest car on the planet has the engine on the wrong place? Even if we accept that Porsche engineers are superb, how did they manage to make 918 slower?

 

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cosimo  3m ago

they even have a 500 hp gt3 rs that can outrun a carrera gt 612 hp

http://newcastleadvertiser.co.za/wp-content/uploads/sites/61/2017/08/05lo3f.jpg


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saxy  3m ago

The 918 would be faster if they reran it with similar efforts.


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FastestLaps  3m ago @saxy

I have no doubt that 918 is faster. But Porsche is not interested in re-testing it on the Ring. All 918 have been sold ages ago, they will appreciate through the roof anyway. What Porsche want is PR for their latest products. Not that without PR they wouldn't sell - Porsche 911 will sell no matter what :D


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Cloxxki  3m ago

Why? There is a very significant weight difference, and the extra power is only available when the battery is not depleted. Which in the onboard lap released, happened before the long straight, so may have been diminished well before. With a flat baattery, the 918 has 608hp in a heavy car.
Sure, 918 has the front axle traction, and that helps A LOT at low speeds. But does the ring has any low speeds? How many second are spent under 100kph, and how much does the 918 there lose by being heavier, and how much down it gain back on acceleration before the next corner?
Above a certain speed, the front wheel drive does not aid in traction, only drive. And it needs (say) 20% more total power to get the same power to weight, while it started on the backfoot with a weaker (albeit N/A) cumbustion engine.
918 did hybrid better than P1 and LF. They put some of the e power on the front axle, and had a bigger battery. Simply a more effective way to go fast with (despite) the additional electric bits.
But this doesn't make a hybrid faster by default.
Imagine the P1 without the (Goodwinn confirmed) 180kg extra for some 180hp? That would be a seriously ligtht car with further improved power to weight. And no burden of depleted battery halfway through the ring lap (that must suck when you're trying to beat a relatively porky Porsche). They couldnhave stuck in a bigger battery, and it would not have helped. Longer braking distance, slower cornering, slower acceleration. Would almost making it around the lap on the battery make up for that? I doubt it. Hybrid bits made P1 a non-winner because they neglected the front axle. And in my opinion, it could have done with wider rear tires perhaps.


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saxy  3m ago @Cloxxki

One: Porsche said themselves that the pre-production car was improved after and would be faster.
Two: the Nurburgring is now faster after they added some new tarmac


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DrDuke  3m ago @saxy

so you say that the 918 does the hybrid better than the other 2 cars but it runs out of electric power? Sounds to me that you contradict yourself.

Who knows how many bhp this 911 had - the notar didnt has an idea either. The only thing this dude can prove is that the clock is running right.

But what we know is that the german car manufacturers are a bunch of cheaters.


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Fastedee  3m ago @FastestLaps

The tires and mechanical grip are two reasons. The engineer behind the GT2 RS said the 918 only had 605 bhp at times during its lap. The 918 might also generate less than the 400 kg of downforce the GT2 generated on the straights.


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manone  3m ago @Fastedee

"The engineer behind the GT2 RS said the 918 only had 605 bhp at times during its lap." which implies they have not
used electric motors at all, hard to believe. such as it is hard to believe that 605hp on a car weighing like a 918 is capable of going below 7min. never believe german engineers nor german forums/trolls.

"The 918 might also generate less than the 400 kg of downforce the GT2 generated on the straights." which would make 918 much faster in the straights, since 911's downforce is not aerodynamically efficient.


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Fastedee  3m ago @manone

The electric motors gave it 888 bhp half the time but its aero , grip and tire disadvantages mean't it had to slow down a lot more than the GT2 on the turns. The ACR with a miserable 280 km/ hr on the straight was only 4 seconds slower than the 918 for the same reason.
An excellent amateur driver on Youtube posted a 7:56 in his Vantage V8s only six seconds slower than a pro in a GT8 and he had to pass several cars. On the other hand the driver who got 8:03 in the anemic 4.3l Vantage should get 7:42-45 in the GT8. . However there is no way the difference in cornering between a Civic R and early Murcielago should be enough to believe a 7:43 for the Civic.


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manone  3m ago @Fastedee

918 batteries initial charge and regen make electric motors active for more than half of the lap at full discharge rates, although maybe not for the entire lap, moreover 4wd on 1.5-2 tons vehicles give an advantage on handling sections of nurburgring, even compared to those with higher downforce, which
does not play a role at less than 150-180kph. it all comes
down to 1. tires, 2. suspensions, 3. engine of which we know nothing both for 918 AND 991gt2rs except for what
claimed/rumored by porsche, which means nothing anyways.

The only take we can get out of this n-ring bullshit is how fast road legal tires can go on that track, assuming such tires have been used.


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Fastedee  3m ago @manone

Possibly but the laps are on Youtube Tom491115. Vincent Kolb also has some gooduns on Youtube.


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Kain  2m ago @Cloxxki

After 149mph the 918 runs only on its 608hp, all elec motor power shuts down beyond the 149mph mark. That might be why they say the GT2 RS is the fastest production Porsche since its always at 690 whatever hp and being 300kg lighter... not sure but id love to see the 2 drag race to 200mph


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cosimo  2m ago @Kain

'After 149mph the 918 runs only on its 608hp'

that's one of the things por-sheeeit doesn't want you to know about their overhyped eveready powered 918 turd

at the gas station when your electric product made in china reaches its limit and needs to go into limp mode, but decides to call it quits

http://i.vimeocdn.com/video/544889733_1280x720.jpg


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Fastedee  3m ago

It has a fair amount of downforce but it's the mechanical grip and newly developed tires that do it. Really really puts the power down too.

 

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cosimo  3m ago

at higher revs the power and torque starts to drop, so it's nothing special here and the torque remains exactly the same as its lower grade turbo shiet model. because the 2wd toad will be going sideways trying to imitate a ford mustang while leaving cars and coffee and crashing into a crowd of spectators and journalists.

there's always a catch with vw and their low emission cars

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/da/0b/ab/da0bab63fdc73b684e75f768ed81b1b7.jpg


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nala  3m ago

good grief how much more is possible from a 40 year old concept ?


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FreedaBees  3m ago

2018 Honda Civic Type R: $258,000 cheaper and only 56.5 sec slower.

 

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juggz  3m ago

It's 20 seconds slower than a carrera gts and hardly any more fuel efficient. The porsche having the 90l fuel tank option that honda would get lapped racing and pit stopping.


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FastestLaps  3m ago

Don't forget you'll have to pull rear seat and AC if you want those "only 56.5 seconds slower" ;)


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mrX  3m ago

The time is money :D


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FreedaBees  3m ago @FastestLaps

With $258,000 to spend, I think I might be able find someone who could do that for me. ;-)

Sorry, change of plan, I'll do it myself for some skinned knuckles and several hundred swear words and keep all that money. Can you tell I'm cheap? ;)


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FreedaBees  3m ago @mrX

If time was money I'd buy a helicopter.


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juggz  3m ago @FreedaBees

meh the SR8LM was 56 sec faster 9 years ago and on a slower track I could get a used SR8LM slap some serious tires on it all for around 40k


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FastestLaps  3m ago @juggz

On slower track SR8LM would have the GT2RS covered. In most situations.... at least as long as its little Hayabuse engine would stay in one piece


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juggz  3m ago @FastestLaps

Meh we only need one lap! even if we need more I'm pretty sure we could cut down a little on power and offset with better tires.


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saxy  3m ago @juggz

An SR8LM isn’t really a production car and isn’t one of the perks of a supercar is getting girls? Good luck getting a girl to date you in that.
I could buy an old Can Am Mclaren 12C which would set low 6:20s.
Haters will be haters


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saxy  3m ago

That’s one of the most stupid things I’ve ever read. A golf R will beat any million dollar supercar around the city and multistory parkades.

Or... the Porsche is about a million dollars cheaper than a Mclaren P1, and hey it’s faster around the ring.


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juggz  3m ago @saxy

Fail to detect sarcasm dumbass ? What do you know about girls they love balls and you know what else they love ? money! the SR8LM is not a race car that is banned on the road an sr8lm with slicks would shit all over that Mclaren especially on slower tracks good luck finding a non totaled Mclaren race car for the price of a used SR8LM/Civic type R.


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juggz  3m ago @juggz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajN5fVVOLOw

Over 6:30 for a GT3 race car with qualifying slicks and a team. Even if he had the money the cuck buying this thing would let the whole team gang bang the track groupie gold digger! Talk about courting women using race cars or even supercars.
http://hotchickswithdouchebags.com/

http://hotchickswithdouchebags.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Starblazer6.jpg


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juggz  3m ago @juggz

I'd build a particle accelerator which would set low 0's while I'm banging nerd scientist girls.
Haters will be haters


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saxy  3m ago

The passenger seat is clearly there in the second video. Camera is pointing at driver side. The only thing missing is the console.
Bucket seat is for extra safety. Makes sense.
Gosh that discussing scum underneath must be feeling awesome lol

 

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cosimo  3m ago

'Bucket seat is for extra safety'

is this the latest bs excuse por-shee has been feeding its fanboys ?

if safety is their #1 issue then why not add a 360 degrees airbags and reduce the top speed down to 75 mph ? if that particular bucket seat is safer then why aren't they giving the buyer the option to buy it ? or is it only safer when their own smack talking driver is behind the wheels ?

this bs seat and rollcage safety talk they been performing lately = not a legit lap time, unless you can have them ordered or if it will be part of a package

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/94/0a/9b/940a9b8c4ce90a7a4bc3029dd69b74fc.jpg

why go all out with a seat that nobody will be able to order and post a lap time and make a big fuss about it ? if it's a prototype that's fine, because we already know this long wheelbase vw golf has a lot more power than what you see on the spec sheet.


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cosimo  3m ago

another 911 with a missing passenger seat and a mysterious looking driver side bucket seat? lololol

https://vectortoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/creepy-clown-collection-3-001.jpg

 

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FastestLaps  3m ago

Wow, you didn't call 911 "beetle" this time. Must be finally warming up to the Porsche brand.


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Someone :)  3m ago

Wow here you are with your bullshits :)))


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cosimo  3m ago @FastestLaps

https://i.imgur.com/di2iPpy.png


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juggz  3m ago

A full carbon body Cayman with magnesium parts and that light 500hp v4 engine from the 919 hybrid would be something else.

 

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saxy  3m ago

Technically that V4 could produce quite a bit more than 500hp. The current form is running about 20% less fuel flow rate than it did 2 years ago


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FastestLaps  3m ago @saxy

I think its designed strictly for racing, not sure if and how well it would transfer to road application. They could design a V4 from skratch, but they already have the flat 4 turbo of 718.

Even with 500 hp, the 200 hp difference would be too much for the mid engine lightweight car to overcome. Nurb is actually quite power hungry track with 3 very high speed sections.


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juggz  3m ago @FastestLaps

They did it before with the 918's naturally aspirated v8, an overboosted flat 4 is just not gonna cut it, pretty sure they could have that 919's v4 economically reach somewhere around 500hp without the need for racing fuel. I mean the 9 years old SR8LM did pretty considering it's down even more power and more importantly tires.


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juggz  3m ago

Carrera GTS is the real MVP 69.16% more fuel efficient than a GT2 RS when that's only 8.97% faster around the ring no water injection required. Still the GT2 RS is faster and 8.29% more fuel efficient than a Huracan performante and doesn't have shit tread wear tires.


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FastestLaps  3m ago

Will McLaren respond or will they "pull a Koenigsegg" and be content with better p/w ratio and bigger horsepower on paper

 

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Rod  2m ago

The way you phrased this (cars with licence plates) McLaren is already #1. I get that a question could be asked as to whether that car was "production" but no doubt that it was road legal.


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JAKUB  3m ago

and glad to see true petrol car beating all those electric "inventions"


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JAKUB  3m ago

stunning

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