45 Von Koenigsegg and Glickenhaus don't believe Lamborghini Huracan Performante 6:52 record

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This is what Christian von Koenigsegg and James Glickenhaus said when asked about the record by Top Gear:

When I saw that video, I was like "something's not right here". How can it be so fast on the lap when it’s so slow on the straight. And where’s the tyre noise, or G-force meter. And then we find out that after the record, the car was on special tyres. Come on guys…

And this is what Glickenhaus said:

I would love to see it. Lamborghini bring their Huracan, and I bring my little New York road car [his ex-race car has been converted to road use, and wears New York plates], and we’ll see who’ll go round the quickest.

It’s the only fair and real way to do it. This is what I think it needs. You get the trophy for a year, we engrave your name on it, next year if someone beats you, they get it. But it’s real. The same day, the same weather, the same amount of rubber. Then you guys aren’t driven frigging crazy by claims and videos. I don’t believe any of it.

To be honest it sounds like both got threatened by the record moving closer to their claims, Koenigsegg did at least admit they couldn't compete with the downforce of the Aston Martin Valkyrie

Sources: Top Gear articles - first, second

7m ago by lafars
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saxy  7m ago

The gleikenhaus did not do 6:20. GT3cars usually do high 6:3Xs. I assume in qualifying he can just break into the 20s. If the car was doing 6:20 flat he would have also broke into the teens and I'm sure we would have hear about that a LONG time ago.


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Fastedee  7m ago

All valid points but if Koenigsegg wants to set an example they should do an official lap on very good summer tires with a completely stock car and let the chips fall were they may. It's for publicity.. all these little guys need cash. They can't cheat after all this griping so just do it but they'd rather feed the myth machine of unofficial lap times.


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BR2+  7m ago

Supposedly the lap was done on October 5th, That was 5months ago, And the rear had a "Very" noticeable camber angle then the actual production car pictures, And if you look at the first pic on the Performante page the tyres aren't even marked, And supposedly the tyres themselves are bespoke, and beyond that they were strictly made just for that event, The laptime.

Just look at the new pics of the actual car then the one they used on the run, Totally different.


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Fastedee  7m ago

Consulier started this wild small manufacturer boasting long ago by claiming that their car could beat a c4 Corvette on any track anytime anywhere
Not only couldn't it accomplish that it sounded far worse and rode like a shopping cart down a staircase lol


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Fastedee  7m ago

The AMG is substantially slower accelerating and a few turns is not the whole track. The 570s was faster than the ZL1 on a few turns as well as the straights at Willow but was still shaded by the American.


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Fastedee  7m ago

Plus if the C is a race car then it's 6:20 is like the DBR9's 1:09 on the Top Gear track ....interesting trivia and nothing more. I like small manufacturers but they can be pretty kooky. Their trash talking means they pretty much have to beat the big guys and when they don't they pull a Gordon Murray to save face and leave the time unpublished.


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cosimo  7m ago

some idiot is editing my posts lol >:( :)))


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Fastedee  7m ago

Then even playing conservative with nonew of Lambos supposed tricks they could easily do 6:40-45 officially in the C but don't because...?


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I love cars   7m ago

The fact that the One:1 was casually doing sub 7 minutes laps at the Ring during the last test session was already well-known, at least for who is capable to document himself.
Also, Mr Glickenhaus threatened by the Lamborghini time? Lol, this must be a joke: do you even see how beyond the SCG003S is?
The C did 6:20 laps for a whole 24h race.
Wake up, nor Koenigsegg nor Glickenhaus are threatened, they are tired of the BS, which is different.
And they are right.


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I love cars   7m ago

Then are completely right, especially Mr Glickenhaus who, with his SCG003 in C, CS and S variants knows a thing or two about performing at the Ring. Furthermore, his idea to have a measured standard for the road record makes perfect sense.


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sroser  7m ago

Because if they did, they somehow managed lower corner speeds on many corners than the AMG GTR that Sport Auto ran.


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cosimo  7m ago

how do we know if lamborghini didn't change to semi_slicks before posing and taking a photo for the world to believe they ran with legitimate tires ?

there's so much bs under the hood / trunk that if a cow could talk, she'd speak out and tell you they cheated big time and used a lighter version of the huracan with the prefabrication wing.

the camouflage wrap is one way to cover up a lot of the lighter body and completely different setup they used for this test

the bull odor is too strong even the joker had a hard time smiling


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sroser  7m ago

I'll just throw this grenade in here.

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Fastedee  7m ago

Aha


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Fastedee  7m ago

Aha


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saxy  7m ago

@fastdee. Skidpad grip at low speed vs at speed with downforce is totally different. Skid pads also have tight turning arcs are also much lower than wide sweeping corners


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lafars  7m ago

i've heard some magazines mention 3 Gs for the road car and 4 Gs for the track car, even EVO when first reporting on the RB-001/Valkyrie presumed the 4Gs would be achieved on slicks

however there is still very little actual data to go by


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Fastedee  7m ago

Corvettes seem listed at 1.2 here as well as the ACR but that must be road tires then


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saxy  7m ago

The Vulcan does 2g on road tires. Corvettes can pull 1.5gs for crying out loud. And the claimed 4.5g is of course on racing slicks. With more downforce, 40% less weight, and much stickier tires 4gs is certainly possible


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Fastedee  7m ago

I do wonder about the Valkyries 4.5 lateral g claim. It is triple the Vulcans supposed 1.5 g and seems ludicrous. Surely 2.5 is enough even for a hyper car. Of course Aston engineers probably said .95-1 g is enough for a 150-300k road car until Chevy,Dodge,Porsche,Mercedes and Ferrari were doing 1.1-1.2 lateral g in their road cars.

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