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The new Ford GT was on Top Gear yesterday, but what have we learned from the 12 minute segment, if anything?

They did show beautiful footage of the GT driving along Pacific Coast Highway and racing around Laguna Seca. They did mention Le Mans history and how Ford beat Ferrari 50 years ago, as well as last year in the LMP2 class. They did mention performance numbers which we already knew.

What they didn't do is provide any new numbers - specifically, there was no lap around Top Gear test track. It is Top Gear tradition to take new supercars around the track and compare laps with previous generation cars. There was significant demand and pressure from fans to do this with hypercar trio, and eventually, despite protest from Ferrari, it did happen.

This time it looks like Ford is "pulling a Ferrari" and banning Top Gear from doing timed lap in fears of bad publicity if GT fails to beat older competition.

This is not based on financial fears of cars not getting sold - Ford GT is already sold out. This is more about fear of bad publicity, remember - these supercars are more than just premium products, they are "halo cars" that carry brand reputation.

2m ago by FastestLaps
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Fastedee  2m ago

Government forcing out supercars would be propaganda like making rich people allow hobos to live in their house. By the time regular cars are even all hybrid or electric emissions from the transportation sector will be miniscule.
Coal plants are the real culprits in greenhouse and life shortening emissions.


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Fastedee  2m ago

Exactly the last supercars will be v12 and v16 monsters around long after gasoline econoboxes. They will mostly be high compression naturally aspirated to accentuate the aural experience. Because as a great warrior once said it is better to burn out than fade away.


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saxy  2m ago

When the whole world becomes all sensible and electric, the ONLY petrol cars that can survive are supercars. The main reason why supercars exist today is to stand out of the crowd. They'll stand out even more when they are surrounded by quiet battery cars.

On the other hand, why would anyone want an electric supercar if a tesla model S can do 0-60mph in 2.5s already? Yet you are saying that petrol cars will remain but supercars will die out. No logic at all in that. Yes please DO NOT educate anyone in fact. Thank you.


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Fastedee  2m ago

Calabogie is the only track that it has lap times for. As a former Ottawa resident the name was familiar.
Obviously a 2.0 lt Camaro with 350 bhp + a 50-75 bhp electric is feasible.
Ford is a great company but too
secretive and an SS Camaro leaves
the GT for dead.
SUVs and pickups need to go more in the direction of 4 cylinders and hybrids.
Supercars should go back to the glorious sound and throttle response of natural aspiration with v12's and even v16's
as the government shouldn't care about fuel efficiency from such low volume cars.
This guy on youtube switched to a 2.0lt from the v6. Camaro and saves a lot on gas yet can still pass people on the mountains of Colorado at 80 mph.
Ford should embrace competition rather than fear it.
By 2050 it may be an electric workshop but there is something to be said for petrol motors.
Eventually fuel will be prioritized for the military as an electric prop fighter is much slower than a Gripen or SU 35.


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Somebody  2m ago

Again a lot of people think that I am speaking funny stuff when I say that even petrol cars will start dying by 2025, but as for the job I do, I do have a clear indication of whats coming, now I dont need to educate you all on this because even if I do, BR2+,saxy, you guys are never going to accept it, but just be sure about this, you will see some really fascinating things by 2020, I am not saying that the already running cars on road like Corollas,F 150s,Civics,etc will be banned, but the new car buyer on market will be surprised to see a lot of things, then this will gradually take lead and by 2025 or so the market will look like an electric work shop, by 2030 auto world will move into a new era

Anyway Fastedee
From where did you source those lap times?
Also 1 thing is certain the Ford GT that Matt drove was a race ready car but the one on Top Gear studio was a customer car that had less miles on odo and didnt have a proper break in.


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Fastedee  2m ago

But to be fair we'll have to wait to see if Ford allows tests with Motor Trend, Road & Track, Autobild and Car and Driver before we can really condemn them.


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Fastedee  2m ago

There are a lot of people who need a truck but many just use them as a car.
If they're really worried about emissions then. restricting SUVs and pickups are the way to go.
The three biggest sellers in Canada are pickups. The F150 sells 88 000, the top Chevy 75000 and Dodge 69000. The top car is the Civic at 55000. Cutting these numbers in half with incentives like taxes on urban non tradesmen would do a lot more for the enviroment than forcing NA V12s outta production.
The Camaro 2.0l t, Mustang ecoboost and Focus RS are the future of the performance car for the upper middle class. The addition of a small 50-75bhp electric motor could make them even faster and more efficient.
At least half of SUVs are not taken offroad as Jason Cammisa notes in his Range Rover SVR video.
If one had 500k to spend better to get the Next Gen Vanquish or Bentley Supersports. You'd have enough left over for a Giulia QV or Camaro ZL1.
More luxurious and will still go down the road far faster than you could legally. Also, they'll let magazines test them and publish the laptimes. Cripes, the DB11 Pobst drove had its brakes damaged a bit by testing and it's a GT car! The Ford GT is a real supercar and Ford wants it treated like a china doll with a secrecy that'd be the envy of Ferrari.
If you're looking at cars that are very similar there's the 720s and Performante.
Or just get a house and a ZO6 lol.
That's the right spirit! No company should control what an owner does with their car that way!


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BR2+  2m ago

Yeah Ford picks who gets it, They do a thorough background check even before putting on a list if potential buyers, They want the car to be seen by the most, "Sociable" of people, And you have to have owned the last GT to even qualify, So technically only about 4000 people qualify, As for flipping the car, I'm not 100% sure but I think you actually have to lease it for 2 years before you can even do anything too it, I've also herd that if you crash the car there's a penalty in it for the owner, But I dunno how that'll work.

That us just plain stupid, It doesn't matter who owns the car it will gather attention everywhere, I love the car, But if I was offered a chance to buy it, I wouldn't, I'll be damned if I'm gonna let any company control my purchases, If it costs 500k, I better damn well be able to do what I want with it.

This s just retarded, Ford shouldn't act like this, It's bad PR, He'll even Lexus wasn't this bad with the LFA, It's literally just the start of them acting as Ferrari, Pretty soon they will start coming with bodyguards to protect the GTS from Doing laps on a show.

And you want the pickups to be limited? lol the F150 is tge fastest selling and best selling pickup on the planet, It isn't gonna be some super special limited model.


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Fastedee  2m ago

Its very cafe society and un American of my southern neighbours to operate like with their pinky just so at tea.
Americans are just to independent for some of them not to submit their cars to magazines. I agree with not letting them sell the car right away but the rest is being dictatorial of Ford.


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Fastedee  2m ago

SUVs and pickup trucks dwarf supercars in consumption and emissions with their sheer size combined with huge numbers. They should severely limit SUV and pickup truck production legislatively to prioritize oil for military jets, transport trucks and supercars.
Saving petrol supercars is no different from saving the Redwoods. They provide a unique and breathtaking experience.
If the masses are moved into electric, 50 mpg+ cars and public transportation then there would be plenty of fuel and emission cap space left for practical and spiritual essentials.
Unfortunately, SUVs and pickup trucks are very popular so the legislative will might not be there. The most vulnerable SUVs may be the best ones like the SVR and Bentayaga. Relatively high volume v6 and v8 luxury sedans should also be limited in numbers legislatively.
They should only build enough pickup trucks for tradesmen, not to drive to the office. Plus, truck engines should be hybrids or big turbo 4's
In terms of families economy cars can now seat 5 quite comfortably with good performance.


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saxy  2m ago

Lol "anyone can buy a Ford GT" ? Not really. Ford hand picked their buyers who have more social media or society presence. And buyers have to like sign a contract that you won't flip the car upon delivery.

So even if you paid 3x the sticker price for it, there could still be reprocusions as in a ford could take back the car?


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Fastedee  2m ago

As far as I know ,anyone with money can buy a Ford GT ,unlike Ferrari. Their threats are hollow- if, in fact, they've threatened anyone.
Top Gear is a fun lap and no one is gonna pass on next years GT because it did a 1:17 - 1:18 or so.
In fact, Ford should give magazine test drivers longer with their car so it can put up better numbers.


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saxy  2m ago

You can be sure petrol supercar prices will go up much more and never fall, while economical electric cars have a lot to fall still. When they no longer branded as "premium" cars, they'll be like 25-30 grand. And we all know how easy it is to have decent power. In terms of power to price, they'll easily match petrol cars like Golf GTI's.


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BR2+  2m ago

...Currently?..


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saxy  2m ago

There will be...

 

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FastestLaps  2m ago

EVs of course will be cheaper in future, but prices in terms of pure numbers will not go down because of inflation.


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BR2+  2m ago

...is there even a cheap electric car?..


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saxy  2m ago

In fact, it would be petrol supercars the last to stand because if you wanted a simple sensible car, it wouldn't be the petrol car, it would be the electric car.

What did this fool think the future was? Cheap economic petrol cars and expensive electric supercars? Obviously the other way around. SMH


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BR2+  2m ago

Yeahhh...I dont see ALOT of supercars ditching petrol any time soon..Hell 100 years from now they will still be here(Shut up im from the future i know.)


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saxy  2m ago

you'd be a fool to think petrol supercars being of the past in a matter of just 8 years time. That's like people early in the century thinking that horses will be completely obsolete.

Even if for leisure or for fun, petrol cars will have to focus on driving sensations

 

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Somebody  2m ago

Yes there will be petrol cars, but petrol super cars will start dying slowly.
This is not my decision and its not my thought, just look at FIA and their new regulations , U lll see what I mean


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BR2+  2m ago

Considering how well Fords arguably best cars are rated, Which is damned good, I don't see this one being less, Plus just the name in itself GT from Ford draws everyone's attention, And considering they want this car seen by famous people or just seen in general, And the fact they aren't going out with laprimes I don't see them thinking of latimes as much as you think, Even with big downforce n what not, Atleadt that is my impression. Like I don't even see a quarter of he owners blasting it round a track, He'll just like the LFA, which is how Ford is acting They will sell it for profit, If Ford let's them.

Would your average GT owner care if it was slower round a track them a 488 or even a 80k ZO6?..........

 

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Somebody  2m ago

No the average owner wont care, thats the point I am too willing to make, lets say the GT does a 1:32.xx around Laguna Seca and the ZR1 does a 1:30.xx, most wont care as the GT has done a sub 1:35 which itself is more than enough for most buyers, the mission of Ford GT is just to commemorate the 66-67-68 victory and 2016 is a success, now the 2017 and 2018 lies in front of them
Also the Ford GT just might be the last super car Ford would make as well because I think by 2025 most brands would go electric and super cars will be more like NSXs ie part hybrid part turbo power and by 2030 or so super cars will be dead by then, so Ford is making the best money out of what they can , nice business logic as they can make like same money what the Corvette makes by selling just 1000 GTs while Vette needs nearly 4000 of them on road to make the money Ford makes.

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