The problem with F1 seating is... It's Terrible if you are not setting lap times. Getting in is tough. Paying for tolls is tough. Trying to look ahead of the traffic in front, left or right you won't see anything for 1 you're low and 2 you're in the center of the car.

Practicality does cover drivability and AWD >> RWD in a 600+hp car with no TC or ABS, or airbags in fact...

Still the Mclaren isn't supposed to be super practical. It's to be the best supercar ever, and it's hard to argue against it

911 has 4 seats and only 2 adults can sit upfront, good luck kidnapping toddlers off the street or monkeys from a zoo to fit them in the back, if they accept without leaving a scratch on your face or throwing up once they get in.

they're better off in a yoga session instead of forcefully fitting themselves in the back seats of a 911, imagine if they were driven for over half an hour ? two adults getting out of the back, as if they're pulling themselves out of a public shitter. comfort on donkey balls.

even the panamera is another shitty project with four doors. it has tons of recalls and I would never consider it a practical car. the 911's engine could break down at any time, no guarantee for how long it can run. the engine begs for oil every 500 to 1000km, so you could get stranded in the middle of nowhere.

outside germany, do not expect to find a service center every 20km, because they do not care if your car breaks down, they'll tell you to buy another one. capiche ?

F1 seating in a road car, beat that haters!

McLaren BMW V12 noise is incredible. Its like the E30 legendary induction noise X3 (since its 4 vs 12 cylinders). Architecturally it was closer to E36 Inline 6. I think the VANOS system was more or less the same.

That era of BMW naturally aspirated engines was awesome.

But from a cold hearted practicality point of view, you probably would get tired on a trans-European tour listening to loud drone of the engine for like 16 hours straight.

Sometimes the most pleasant aspect of driving a car is just how quite and peaceful it can be.

@FL
Those points are good in comparing practicality but I didn't consider those point,you didn't have to call me stupid for that you know.But I don't agree with the loudness point,F1's V12 generates one of the best sounds in the car,I would be disappointed if I won't hear its whistle inside a car.

And I prefer manual transmission over automatic,driving an F1 was my best experience I ever had,I don't have words to describe it.The car was in Volcanic Orange colour.Only problem I had is the brakes.

Good gamer, you wanna know why McLaren F1 is less practical than Porsche 911 Turbo S? Lemme tell ya

• McLaren F1 is 1.5 - 2 million dollar treasure. If someone scratches or dings it at the parking lot, you're screwed. If something breaks and you have to replace some parts, you're screwed. If you crash it, you're screwed - you have destroyed a piece of automotive history that can't be replaced. Unlike a 991 Turbo, which is built in large numbers and currently in production. Insurance probably will kill you too.
• McLaren has innovative seating arrangement with two passenger seats on either side of the driver. 911 has 2 + 2 layout with 2 very cramped passenger seats in the back. I would say that a tie as far as seating space goes.
• McLaren has a bespoke naturally aspirated BMW V12 engine. You don't wanna run it every day, even though it probably can withstand big milage. It is fuel inefficient and will kill polar bear cubs in Arctic.
• McLaren F1 is loud. Sound insulation is much worse and engine noise is way too loud to be considered "comfortable" in 2016.
• McLaren F1 has manual gearbox. Porsche has PDK automatic. This is a huuuuge plus for comfort and practicality. I don't know how harsh the clutch engagement is for F1, but I can imagine its not the most pleasant. Not to mention the manual labor of shifting and de-clutching.

You don't know shit about the One:1's nurburgring crash koenigsegg can claim what they want but reality is different their claims are bogus just like how they claim they have the fastest car. high powered multi million dollar RWD car got shit when pushed hard that's all we know at the this point there's no proof of how the crash happened but alot of us knew it was coming. koenigsegg and all these shit over priced manufactures are more concerned about controlling damage to their reputation than their cars and irrational dumb clients.

Yes,it can there is a video where they do that.

Wtf? An F1 can carry 7 golf bags? Sure man.

Okay my bad turbo s seats 4 but it doesn't have more luggage space than F1,F1 has more space than a sedan,if you compare the 911 turbo of 90's F1 is more practical.F1 can carry 7 golf bags.

The turbo S seats 4.

No I said it won't EASILY beat the 918 as Mclaren said it would.

That means it'll have to do much many more laps with the best condition tires and condition to have a chance to beat it. That's all.

The 918 can beat itself too. Just do more laps.

@FL
F1 has more luggage space than 991 Turbo S,can seat 3 people rather than 2,so what makes you think that it is more practical then an F1 or that I am stupid?At the track may be 991 Turbo S would win but not in practicality test or beauty test.You can't argue with me about that unless you read Driving Ambition.

@saxy
I find it hilarious about how many time I find you wrong,P1 is faster on 6/9 tracks,so I won't be surprised if it beats 918 at the ring,
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/1nl9h7fasmov
I think even Agera One would beat it now,918 is just an old car.

before

after

End of story.
http://koenigsegg.com/koenigsegg-analysis-of-nurburgring-accident/

LOL. they didn't confirm Mclaren did it at a certain pace. they just paraphrased what Mclaren said, or they just repeated what Mclaren said. They didnt' say, yes the Mclaren beat the 918 around the ring. I'm pretty sure nobody said that, not even Mclaren. Most magazines and jounalists would say in quotations... "mclaren claim they've gotten in under 7 minutes"

And it's not like the P1 is anything much faster than the 918 to begin with. At laguna, no matter how many laps, and sets of trofeo Rs, it couldn't beat the 918.

this is like a broken record.

Turbo S not as practical as McLaren F1?

Still Turbo S is not as practical as the Mclaren F1.You say that TG repeats crap,the that means that all the TG laps should be taken with grain of salt.Even if you deny TG,do you still deny Autocar,EVO magazine when they said P1 averaged 111mph?

You say top gear is crap yet you say that they showed that Golf GTi lapped same time with all types of suspension.Only thing I disagrre with them is the F1 vs Veyron drag race,but I don't doubt that F1 may win on track after driving them both on Willow Spring track around 2007.

If so that be your opinion,I respectfully disagree with you.I love how you apply your own logic when magazine says the opposite of your thinking.I think P1 has done sub 7 if you think otherwise,so be it.

Four wheel drive would not have made any difference at this part of the track where this accident happened, it is a deceleration area after blasting through Fuchsröhre in insane speed, braking and still VERY high speed over the curb in the left turn before braking more to cope with the low speed corners of Adenauer Forst.
My guess is that the driver lost control over that curb, got the control back fast but not fast enough to be able to brake enough.

The problem with the Koenigsegg is probably the control and inherent stability of the chassis/car. Not lack of 4 wheel drive.

That Huracan looks good.

Good gamer. Top gear repeats a ton of crap that others say. They don't ever filter things to verify anything. Example. "laferrari is the lightest of the 3 hypercars". Wrong. 458 is lighter than 12C, nope. They will tell you that an RS6 takes 3.9s to get to 60, but yet their own drag races on Topgear have proven the car can do it in just 3.2s. The Topgear editor himself told me that they just give and post things according to what manufacturers tell them. Some companies like to take conservative numbers, others like to exaggerate. Just cuz top gear says something, doesn't mean it's suddenly all on the same playing field.

No it's not what I think. Most of the car world gave Mclaren the thumbs down. You don't claim you have the fastest car in the world and go try to prove it and then announce... Yes we have verified we are the fastest... And then give no verification. That's just straight BS.

at hockenheim short both 675LT and Huracan LP610-4 was on Pzero trofeo R tires.