32 New Porsche GT3 comes with a stick!

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When Porsche decided to retire manual gearbox in 991 GT3, many customers were unhappy - sure, PDK is best for performance, but, in this age of drive-by-wire steering, throttle and brakes, manual gearchange was one of the last analog man and machine interactions left.

Porsche tried to compensate by releasing new GT models with manual as standard - the Cayman GT4 and Porsche 911R. Reception and sales were better than anticipated and this led to complete reversal of strategy for the GT3 line and return of 6 speed manual gearbox alongside PDK for the facelifted 991 GT3.

The new GT3 also has revamped engine, now at 4 liter capacity, 9000 rpm redline with 500 horsepower, optimized aero for 20% more downforce (with no extra drag) and minor cosmetic updates.

0-100 time is quoted as 3.4 seconds for the PDK version and 3.9 for manual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CECuqFkzzhI

By FastestLaps, 2 weeks ago   17.2k

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Fastedee  1d  

The gt3r manualwill still have a downforace and limit handling advantage over the 911R


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Fastedee  1d  

A manual fits with the beautiful sounding engine and I hate to think people go well I enjoy the R more but the GT3 r's acceleration and laptimes are more brag worthy. The premium on it is interesting as the Vantage dogleg is a no cost option even with a stone age automated manual as the regular tranny. Of course the R is far more different from the GT3rs than the dogleg from the regular V12s.
Jason Camissa in defence of the dogleg Aston said who needs to get to sixty in less than 4.4 seconds. Exchange that number for 3.7 and you get an argument for the R.
That said anyone paying more than 300k for it are crazy or using it as an investment.


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Jonnes Bays  1d  

"911 r owners paid for a pos carrera s with detuned engine out of the rs and a slower tranny, it's logical if these people are dumbasses to begin with" - cosimo
Well, I must agree on this one with you. It is hard to explain what you get in 911R compared to 911GT3. 911R is puristic and simplified 911, but not enough to make the price worth it.
On the other hand, Porsche made so few the prices will only go up, so there is that exclusivity also, but... Still not worth the price in my opinion.


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cosimo  2w  

Even at sticker price the 991.2 GT3 is still only going to be about the same price and a way better car.

911 r owners paid for a pos carrera s with detuned engine out of the rs and a slower tranny, it's logical if these people are dumbasses to begin with

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saxy  2w  

Way better car? I didn't hear anyone say the 911R needed lots of improvements or feel underwhelming when they drove it. You are trying to imply that the 911R was an absolute dog to drive and sucks to be them. Yet most people praised it as the best car of the year. Hardly a terrible car

The 911R isn't just a GT3 with a manual. There was lots of lightened options and visual differences


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sroser  2w  

Even at sticker price the 991.2 GT3 is still only going to be about the same price and a way better car.


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BR2+  2w  

Agreed


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saxy  2w  

Well those people were stupid to begin with.


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BR2+  2w  

I ment the people who bought it way above sticker price like 600k+


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saxy  2w  

@BR2. Not neccesarily. I have a friend who has a 911R. He bought for sheer enjoyment. He's also got a fleet of Mclarens and rollsroyces. At no point was he he going to sell this car. So wether the prices go up or down, he couldn't care less because ALL his other cars depreciate anyways. He also bought it at sticker


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cosimo  2w  

Go drive a mazda mx-5/honda s2000/porsche cayman/boxter manual and then try to tell me that manual is bad

manual is bad, on the above cars you brought up :)

i only like to drive italian beasts with manual, f40, f355, f50, testarossa, 512, 250, diablo, murcielago etc.....

the grocery getters don't turn me on and are good for receiving door dings and getting keyed in shopping mall parkings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd2D9K7uwwQ


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BR2+  2w  

Either way people who bought the 911R were just gonna sell it for a profit soon anyway, If one can afford an R at retail or what there going for, I highly doubt any of them are feeling too bad, It will still sell at a good price, But I'm sure they will take a hit. Maybe Porsche planed this from the very beginning of the 991 models. We all no dcts are faster, But if you get somebody in a manuka who REALLY knows what there doing, It looks like they shift just as fast, He'll just look at that video of the T/A vs Huracan video I posted.


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Fastedee  2w  

Gee guys rich folks drive on the track all the time. A few guys on youtube said they chose a ZO6 over Vantage V12s cause they wanna crush and humiliate others at the track and they could buy a ZL1 with the leftover money. Others picked the Vette over the Jag SVR for the same reason. Another had a boss who took his Aston to the track and wanted to humiliate him. I didn't ask about their castles in Wales and Duesenbergs and Bentleys lol. Of course manuals make you slower but those guys who don't see the track as a bicep measuring/bench press competition will love em.


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lafars  2w  

Cosimo

Go drive a mazda mx-5/honda s2000/porsche cayman/boxter manual and then try to tell me that manual is bad


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cosimo  2w  

and you do not get that extra 500 rpm which leads all the way to 9000 rpm lol

poor saxy still does not understand how the car business works, r owners can now go sit on their shifter and brag all they want 991 times a day


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FastestLaps  2w  

I'm sure life is such a hardship to own a car like that.

Trust me, even starving Kenyan children wouldn't want 911R after this stick-shift 4.0 GT3 was announced. And if you just paid 200 - 400 GBP for a 911R, you go to the bridge...


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sroser  2w  

Exactly what I was thinking. I bet 911R owners are lining up on the Golden Gate bridge right now

I'm sure the guy who paid £436k for it has jumped already.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1947170/brand-new-porsche-911-sells-for-436k-at-auction-three-times-what-its-owner-paid-in-july/


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saxy  2w  

I'm sure life is such a hardship to own a car like that.


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FastestLaps  2w  

Sucks to be a 911R owner.

Exactly what I was thinking. I bet 911R owners are lining up on the Golden Gate bridge right now


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sroser  2w  

Sucks to be a 911R owner.