18 Porsche 911 GT2 RS sets new Hockenheim record, beats Huracán Performante

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The new turbocharged rear wheel drive Porsche 911 GT2 RS has recorded almost unbelievably fast lap time around the Hockenheim "Kleiner Kurs".

German magazine Sport Auto have published a test comparing current Nurburgring champion Porsche GT2 against former champ Lamborghini Huracán Performante. Test driver Christian Gebhardt ran both cars around Hockenheim and produced two record fast laptimes, both faster than any other road car in documented history.

Porsche beat Huracán by 1.7 seconds. In relative terms, this is more impressive than beating Performante at Nurburgring by 4.7, which was only 1.2% improvement. 1.7 seconds over a short lap around Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs translate to 2.6% difference.

Here is the Sport Auto video with full onboard footage for both lap times. To see updated list of all Hockenheinm laptimes, head over to Hockenheim Short track page.

5m ago by FastestLaps
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sroser  5m ago

Just a little side note, the GT2 RS was using developmental tyres which aren't available yet.

https://www.germancarforum.com/threads/sport-auto-lamborghini-huracan-performante-vs-porsche-911-gt2-rs.57826/page-2#post-866532

 

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cosimo  4m ago

they work only from april to august then you switch back to winter tires or off the shelf cup 2 that will set you back to 7:xx


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cosimo  4m ago @cosimo

and if you push your luck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE95cr9dma8


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moegigo  5m ago

Sure GT2RS was faster (the real diference between the 2 is may not that big, consider analysis of Dr. Duke below). But the GT2 RS is more like a "phantom car" with 500 pieces build -> its more a financial investment (price will probably explode!!) than a track tool I think. You won't see many for sure and you have pretty much no chance to get one even if you would like to. The Lambo is a car you could buy straight from the factory if you can afford it.
My favorit is still the 720 "At the wheels ".... holy shit. Autobahnkiller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q461qW39r2s&t=3s


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FastestLaps  5m ago

Somebody should put the GT2 RS on dyno... the legendary "Porsche horsepower" probably are factor too.

 

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cosimo  5m ago

no need for all that hassle, call the pet shop and ask them to send a german shepherd to do some sniffing and if it starts barking you'll know they been using different type of rubber....and that's a rap

check below for more details.


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DeDe  5m ago

They already did. Supertest will come soon. ;)


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Hans  5m ago

Turbo german cars always hives more power couse they have to hold claimed power at 1 mile above see level.


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cosimo  5m ago @Hans

you must be a douchebag ? because you still do not understand what kind of aggressive tires were used by por-shee

z06 cheating tires which is also used by amg gtr and 911

https://i.imgur.com/VGOVZT5.jpg

rub your hands on your butt and feel the tire tread patterns. shave off all the hair and you get a super grippy tire, got it ? douchebag !


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DDD  5m ago @cosimo

The Z07 variant of PSC2 is a truly aggressive tire. Everyone who have an eye can tell with 100% certainty that Z07 variant PSC2 has much more aggressive tread patterns than off-the-shelf PSC2. In other words, Chevy was willing to sacrifice the wet grip for the dry grip, at least. And Chevy might be willing to sacrifice the consistency over peak performance, since you don't need more than 5+ laps worth of consistency if you're just aiming for the best lap time on the Nordschleife or the magazine conducted track test.

How much stickier then? A lot of cars are using PSC2s as an OE tire nowadays but Z07 has 10% shorter 60-0mph stopping distance than those cars, which is completely dependent on the performance of the tire, not brake system.

However, it's not exactly a standard tire of Z06. Standard Z06 tire is PSS and sick variant of PSC2 comes with Z07 package. Same goes for AMG GT R. The standard AMG GT R tire is already PSC2 but that's something more like off-the-shelf PSC2. If you want to get a corvette variant PSC2, you need to choose that option, which is offered for no charge.

And I don't think Porsche uses corvette variants of PSC2. Porsche always have their own variant of PSC/PS so far and I don't think they have changed now. Also, GT2 RS did not wear corvette variant PSC2 on the official photos of any kind.


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DrDuke  5m ago @DDD

Porsche's version of the michelin pilot sport cup 2 ZP (corvette/merc) is not named at the moment but it was on the car.
Without these tires the lap records wouldn't be possible.


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cosimo  5m ago @DDD

one thing's for sure, they're not the exact same cup2 tires used on any of the production cars that you see on the road.

something way too special that was said to suck big time if it were a damp track, they'd easily crash if they ran over a puddle of water.

so cheating was part of the formula to achieve this lap time, which is nothing new in the vw groups book


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QA51M  5m ago

Sometimes a car gives a driver more confidence to be able to push the car harder. It is possible that the gt2rs was more stable in those sections which allowed him to push the car further. Also the huracan lap was still a record time faster than all other cars so he wasnt exactly driving slowly. Just not as fast as 911 gt2rs which clearly is a track monster. Which is impressive given its still got a 911 engine layout which is technically not the fastest layout to have!

 

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cosimo  5m ago

save as all the bs and speculations

spoof auto magazine noted por-shee provided them a car with special sticky michlin tires that are not available for the public lol

cheating is in their blood

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dgDMhcksgEs/ViZnfeyFYgI/AAAAAAAAZW0/-Qb5aNB7Cxc/s1600/Capture-911-gt3-avoids-nring-crash.jpg


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manone  5m ago

it all comes down to tires and suspensions/chassis/rollbar package.
although germans will never admit it, they can't defy physics laws.
therefore, that particular unit must have been using illegal tires (von saurma will of course provide a picture of 991gt2rs with some pirelli cinturato all season lol) and spine-fracture-hard /unrealistically low suspensions package. To match other manufacturers top sports cars, Porsche traditionally kept breaking all the common sense laws which make a car roadable.


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cosimo  5m ago

another win for a german car by a german test driver ? lol

http://media4.giphy.com/media/3o6wrp9O4vdBwUZv0I/giphy.gif


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manone  5m ago

germans do not consider lamborghini arian enough, still. It's mixture of inferior races not a pure, arian race like porsche.


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DrDuke  5m ago

He was just twice totally off track. But there is still some space in the Nordkurve for the next gen Porsche (to take a wider turn). If this would be done during a race event it wouldn't count.
The Lambo lap on the other hand wasn't nearly as good. Besides he didn't cheat with the track limits he made some mistakes: braked too early before the Nordkurve, poor line through the Ameisenkurve and the Südkurve was just extremly bad. Here is the data recording:
https://ibb.co/kEhQ2w
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added laptime for Lamborghini Huracán Performante

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