2003 BMW M3 CSL (E46)

The csl in stock form is an amazing machine, even the std M3. How many cars can you use as as an everyday car? Pick up groceries, take kids to school, go to an important business meeting and then track with no additional work?
If you wana start comparing horsepower, look at the most powerful formula one engine...its a BMW, Maclaren F1 which eats up a Bugatti to 180km/hr.
Any monkey can make any car fast with forces induction, wats the point? Handling?
Everyone wants to say "i beat a M3"
Why is everyone obcessed with Bmw M Power?????????
Cause a M is a M, u get faster cars but they not M's. Same way a M is not a Ferrari or lambo.
Theres Lambo,Ferrari,GTR,M's,and a few other good cars....all the small donkey cars with Turbos that come close in a straigt line to a M ....go Fkin play in the mud.

My point was obviously mistaken. The whole point of my comment was to avoid numbers and stats and semantics - rather focus on the joys of driving a supercharged BMW engine, or a turbocharged Volvo engine (Noble M600), or any other engine that’s modified from its original design to achieve Hypercar performance - but since we've already gone to a pissing contest, I will use the Ascari A10 as a "stock" example. The Ascari A10 uses a TEN YEAR old BMW engine from an old M5 saloon. But because it is custom built around that great, reliable engine, it is a mind-blowing car on the track that dominated the Top Gear board for some time. The Ascari A10, in its “Stock” form is not much different than the idea behind the Loaded CSL Project – namely to take a great BMW engine and make a supercar out of it (just like the McLaren F1 did). The Koenigsegg used a force-fed Ford engine. The Pagani used a 7.3L AMG V12 Supercharged Merc Engine. The Noble M600, a twin turbo Volvo Engine. All are wonderful cars, but the only point I was trying to make is that BMW engines are ALMOST always N/A, and when you force-feed them incredible things happen. Just like when you force-feed a Volvo engine you get a Noble M600, which smokes many cars that technically look better on paper. So you can talk about power-to-weight ratios and car badges until you're blue in the face, but the “Stock” Ascari is a beast of a car considering the engine in there.

Aspioration or whatever, putting a tuned car vs a stock ist fair, espescially if you take it serious. and these are the cars that are the most powerfull in there aspirations.

TwinTurbo (1,287Bhp 7.0L V8)
ShelbySuperCars Ultimate Aero TT

Normally (800Bhp 6.9L V8)
Iconic GTR Roadster

SuperCharged (1,018Bhp 5.0L V8)
Koenigsegg CCXR Trevita

Suprising all V8's all expensive, and all look really good, and are all extremely rare, but even so, putting any formed of tuned car surely would not be fair, even though most likely that tuned car will get is butt handed to it.

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While the Loaded CSL IS a modified car, ALL BMW'S are naturally aspirated engines. So let me get this straight - Mercedes, McLaren, Porsche, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Koenigsegg, Ford, Chevy, and basically every other car manufacturer is allowed to supercharge and turbocharge their huge engines, but BMW is not??? I call BS!! If you compared the modifications done on the Loaded CSL to those parts used on an Aston Martin DBS or a Koenigsegg, the CSL would be made of much more primitive parts than either, and yet it still manages a MIND-BLOWING lap time. Don't forget the original McLaren supercar was powered by a BMW V12 Monster - that car set the standard for quite some time. Also, the Ascari A10 is Powered by a BMW Engine - That car also set the standard for quite some time when it came out. Sure the Loaded CSL IS a "modified" car - But it's still just a 3.2L Straight Six with a Supercharger and a suspension setup - not exactly unfair F1 technology here when compared to these 100% carbon fiber hyper car monsters. ”

what a BS comment...

Porsche GT3, GT3 RS, Carrera2 Carrera4, Carrera GT are all n/a engiens with more hp/l than BMW engines
this M3 CSL has 82.7kW/l
997 GT3 RS 87.11kW/l
997 GT3 84.21kW/l
even a 1966 Porsche 906 Carrera 6 already reached 81kW/l
Mercedes 6.2l V8 is n/a
Audi´s 4.2l V8 and 5.2l V10 are n/a and currently outperfrome similar engines from BMW. The Audi 4.2l V8 450hp and 5.2l V10 560hp

All BMW engines are surely not Naturally Aspirated, and it surely IS unfair, a Tuned car vs a stock car isnt fair, nomatter how you look at it, just compare it to something similar, like a MC12 or a Zonda.

While the Loaded CSL IS a modified car, ALL BMW'S are naturally aspirated engines. So let me get this straight - Mercedes, McLaren, Porsche, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Koenigsegg, Ford, Chevy, and basically every other car manufacturer is allowed to supercharge and turbocharge their huge engines, but BMW is not??? I call BS!! If you compared the modifications done on the Loaded CSL to those parts used on an Aston Martin DBS or a Koenigsegg, the CSL would be made of much more primitive parts than either, and yet it still manages a MIND-BLOWING lap time. Don't forget the original McLaren supercar was powered by a BMW V12 Monster - that car set the standard for quite some time. Also, the Ascari A10 is Powered by a BMW Engine - That car also set the standard for quite some time when it came out. Sure the Loaded CSL IS a "modified" car - But it's still just a 3.2L Straight Six with a Supercharger and a suspension setup - not exactly unfair F1 technology here when compared to these 100% carbon fiber hyper car monsters.

its pretty real.. but then its a modified/tuned up like a race car only without stripes and sponsor sticker

dammmmmmmmm u guys are haters... great car though

the CSL LOADED is a non-factory bmw and is heavily modded with a custom supercharger by LOADED aftermarket tuners. Don't compare modded/tuned car$ to factory stock cars.

we all know the laptime of the loaded CSL.. it is a modified car

do a search in google. Watch the video on youtube. Call the ring personally. Its an official time for the super charge M3 CSL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEQ2d8esCOI&NR=1



there is a quarter of mkile time.

How the hell does this do the same time as the SLR at Hockenheim?

Of cours its unbelievable because its NOT REAL, the CSL doesnt even come close to that time, so no one arue it aint real.

7:22.8 time at nordschleife is really unblievable, there should be a mistake about the numbers I think.

I also own the R35. If you supercharge the CSL (Loaded CSL) it can lap the Nurburgring quicker than the GTR. They are very different machines. One is NA and the other is force induction + intelligent 4wd.

They also feel worlds apart. Speed alone is not the pure purpose of a vehicle. If you can only afford 1 pick the one based on your needs and not someone elses. Just becoz it can scream around the nurburgring does not mean its something that appeals to your driving needs.

i wouldnt say 20 seconds, (only on Nurbring) but i get what your saying.

20 seconds? on any track you say? you must be an expert in this field.

Ya Ya, Nissan GTR would DESTROY this car by 20 seconds on any track, period.

Everyone pipes down when real csl owners talk.....funny

my csl is unlimited and was done by simpson motorsport in cheltnham.
Goes off the clock now 180mph+
Have got a ess supercharger fitted though and a cargraphic exhaust and intrax 3 way suspension and Full six pot AP brakes.
0-60 4secs
0-100 9secs
Top Speed 190+

CSL is indeed a very special machine. I recently purchased one and use it daily. Its a real piece of work. The alpha N setup is darn good and the throttle response in manual/sports mode is insane.

Well Mr Wads, your welcome to by me the CSL..lol

crni09.... if I offered to buy you an M3 CSL or a Lambo Gallardo which would you want?