McLaren F1 vs Bugatti EB 16.4 Veyron

Picture of McLaren F1
Picture of Bugatti EB 16.4 Veyron
Category McLaren F1EB 16.4 Veyron
Max power (ps / bhp) 627 / 6181001 / 987
Max torque (Nm / lb-ft) 647 / 4771250 / 922
Curb weight (kg / lb) 1199 / 26431958 / 4317
Power / tonne (ps / bhp) 523 / 516511 / 504

Acceleration

Speed & distance McLaren F1EB 16.4 Veyron
0 - 100 kph 3.2 s2.5 s
0 - 200 kph 8.8 s7.3 s
0 - 300 kph 20.3 s16.7 s
Est. 100 - 200 kph 5.7 s4.8 s
Est. 200 - 300 kph 12.1 s9.4 s
0 - 30 mph 1.7 s1.1 s
0 - 40 mph 2.3 s1.6 s
0 - 50 mph 2.9 s2.0 s
0 - 60 mph 3.2 s2.5 s
0 - 70 mph 3.9 s3.0 s
0 - 80 mph 4.5 s3.7 s
0 - 90 mph 5.6 s4.5 s
0 - 100 mph 6.3 s5.1 s
0 - 110 mph 7.2 s6.2 s
0 - 120 mph 9.2 s7.2 s
0 - 130 mph 10.4 s8.5 s
0 - 140 mph 11.2 s9.8 s
0 - 150 mph 12.8 s11.3 s
0 - 160 mph 14.6 s13.1 s
0 - 170 mph 17.2 s15.3 s
0 - 180 mph 20.3 s17.8 s
0 - 200 mph 28.0 s24.2 s
Est. 1/8 mile 7.5 s @ 110.6 mph6.6 s @ 118.1 mph
1/4 mile 10.8 s @ 142.3 mph10.0 s

General performance

Category McLaren F1EB 16.4 Veyron
Top speed 391 kph (243 mph)407 kph (253 mph)
Est. max acceleration 0.87 g (8 m/s²)1.21 g (12 m/s²)
Fuel economy 20.4 l/100 km (12 mpg US / 14 UK)21.4 l/100 km (11 mpg US / 13 UK)
Lateral acceleration 0.86 g (8 m/s²)1.00 g (10 m/s²)
60 mph - 0 39 m (127 ft)32 m (104 ft)
70 mph - 0 49 m (162 ft)48 m (158 ft)

Summary

Category McLaren F1EB 16.4 Veyron
Track Performance 00
Straight line speed 18743009
Total 18743009

Verdict

EB 16.4 Veyron is the fastest by a huge margin.

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TypeF173  3y ago

So actually it was the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 that defeated the McLaren F1. In acceleration AND top speed in a TWO way average productions record run. There's nothing more to say. I've got the numbers on my pad for other "rivals" (when in fact there were really, none) and their independently verified times are NOWHERE near, regardless of what any claims are. And Bugatti made hundreds of them.

I really should pay this car more due respect.


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saxy  9y ago

Stop being so butt hurt.


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abcdeghi  9y ago

@BR2+
if the tsukuba was not damp then how can you see reflection of lights in the road which indicates that it was moist and what that 92 percent in the video means.
i think it means the tarmac grip at ideal condition(100% grip) it should do at max
92*64.62/100s+1s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcRY15toko0
this is the video. and one of the youtubers claim to do 1:02.80(racingmylife15 is that fellow) with stock f1 with full tank and worn tires.


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abcdeghi  9y ago

@uptown funker
here is another link for 1.4g skidpad
http://assets.bugatti.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Web/Pages/Models/Super_Sport/Technical_Specifications_Bugatti_Veyron_16.4_Super_Sport.pdf
and it is from official site and
here is skidpad for mp4-12c
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/exotic/1203_2012_mclaren_mp4_12c_first_test/specs.html
mp4-12 c was faster on tg track with lower lateral acceleration so i don't want to hear skidpad tells everything about handling.


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abcdeghi  9y ago

@BR2+
if you want estoril lap times,here are those and these tests are conducted by tire companies.
Nissan GT-R 550 PS 1'53"89 132.2 km/h
Nissan GT-R 530 PS 1'55"28 130.6 km/h
McLaren F1 627 PS 1'55"90 129.9 km/h
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 647 PS 1'56"42 129.3 km/h
Porsche 911 Carrera 4S PDK (991) 400 PS 1'57"34 128.3 km/h
Mercedes SLS AMG Roadster 571 PS 1'58"29 127.3 km/h
BMW M5 (F10) 560 PS 2'00"55 124.9 km/h
BMW M6 Gran Coupe (F06) 560 PS 2'01"36 124.1 km/h
BMW M3 4.0 420 PS 2'02"24 123.2 km/h
Mercedes A 45 AMG 360 PS 2'02"40 123.0 km/h
BMW M6 Cab (F12) 560 PS 2'02"41 123.0 km/h
BMW M6 (F13) 560 PS 2'02"46 122.9 km/h
Porsche Panamera GTS 430 PS 2'02"64 122.8 km/h
Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991) 400 PS 2'03"02 122.4 km
Porsche Boxster III S 3.4 PDK 315 PS 2'03"29 122.1 km/h
BMW M135 i 320 PS 2'04"09 121.3 km/h
BMW M3 4.0 DKG 420 PS 2'04"14

you can see that f1(3rd pos,1:55.9 is very competitive at that track and faster than zr1(1:56.42)

most of these laptimes can be seen on youtube but some are from dead links.


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abcdeghi  9y ago

1.LOL jaguar xj220 has low downforce about 600lbs at 200mph.f1 can produce that downforce @ around 140mph
2.an lm version is said to have enough downforce to stay planted @100mph on the track which is around 550kg @ 150mph(only 50kg lower than p1).
3.it is not downforce that matters,it is the of downforce that matter and that is one of the reasons for f1 to be unstable.
4.an f1 gt can produce slightly higher downforce than f1 lm as said by mclaren @ same drag as f1 and retain f1's topspeed.
5.If f1 is not a track car, how would it win le mans @ its 1st year of production and why would tiff needle from these videos say it has good handling and is awesome on track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kLlmxUAB5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Azl-drqMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTaXbG43udo
he also said it is the greatest car ever.this is the video for mika hakkinen testing f1 at japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIFN4u-8Kg
it indicates that mika hakkinen might have tested xp5 around nurburgring


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uptownfunker  9y ago

McLaren's F1 doesn't have downforce. Kinda like the Bugatti Veyron which Wheels Magazine claimed it did 7:40 at the 20.8km Nurburgring (even though I won't add that laptime to the Veyron's database anymore).

NO, THE MCLAREN F1 IS NOT A TRACK CAR, AND YOU WILL NEVER TRY OUT 7:1x EVEN IN A BTG LAYOUT, BECAUSE THE F1'S TIRES AND BODY JUST WEREN'T MADE TO. THE PORSCHE CARRERA GT IS A TRACK HYPERCAR AND IT DID 7:28. THE MCLAREN F1 WITH ITS LONGER GEARING AND POOR TIRES WILL NOT GO ANY LOWER THAN LIKE 7:39 BECAUSE APPARENTLY THE BUGATTI VEYRON (WITH NO DOWNFORCE EITHER) DID 7:40.

The McF1 and Veyron were only made for speed. The Jaguar XJ220, Porsche Carrera GT, Ferrari Enzo, etc., have different personalities.

All the trolls like you (@abcdeghi) should just LEAVE!


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BR2+  9y ago

...Few things.

1: Capitalized words dont make it true..

2: Ferrari didnt have a car to compete with an F1, The closest thing was the F50, Which was 110Bhp down,130Lb ft down, 130kg more, And half the price, Might as well compare an STI with an S6..

3: That track was BARELY damp on Tsukuba, 2, He was doing those so called "MissShifts" on purpose with reason. Baely ANY car is ever pushed to its limits if any regarding a program/magazine test.

4: You say you would allow your million pound car pushed to its limit...Key word Say.

5: F1 was only faster on Autodrome because it wasnt stock, This has been gone over, Ive no idea about Estoril, But if a 09 ZR1 can take down an 09 GT2, It can take down a F1, Same with the others, You are prasing this cars track capabilities WAY out of proportion.


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abcdeghi  9y ago

@BR2+
"This wont beat a Carrera GT, this wont beat an Enzo, This wont beat a ZR1, It will be fast, But not that fast. A CCX will beat this with or without a spoiler."
LOL THATS WHY ENZO NEVER ALLOWED A DIRECT COMPARISION WITH F1.

F1 WAS FASTER THAN ENZO,CCX ON BEDFORD,FASTER THAN ZR1 ON ESTORIL.
TSUKUBA LAP IS SLOW DUE TO DAMP WEATHER AND LOT OF MISSHIFTINGS AND NOT PUSHED TO LIMITS.

YEAH I WOULD ALLOW MY 3 MILLION CAR TO BE PUSHED TO LIMITS AS I WILL WANT TO KNOW ITS POTENTIAL.

BESIDES ENZO IS ONLY FASTER THAN CGT ON TOPGEAR AND ON NURBURGRING.

F1 TESTED FOR AUTODROME HAD RIMS CHANGED.LARGER WHEELS PROVIDES BETTER GRIP IF AND ONLY IF IT IS WIDER AT THE COST OF ACCELERATION.

F1 TESTED BY EVO HAD FADED BRAKES AS STATED BY OWNER,MALFUNCTIONING OF KEVLAR FANS.BESIDES A CAR IS CONSIDERED STOCK AS LONG AS ITS PARTS ARE SAME. YOU CAN ASK MCLAREN TO TUNE F1 FOR THE TRACK.

F1 TESTED STILL HAD BODY ROLLS,SOFT SUSPENSION AND HEAVY STEERING WHICH IMPLIES ITS BASIC HANDLING CHARACTER WAS SAME.


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saxy  9y ago

A Koenig CC8s would be more similar in terms of power, weight, downforce levels and sophistication.

That took 1:23.8?


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uptownfunker  9y ago

And stop using Ash *******la as a source...it's getting annoying


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uptownfunker  9y ago

lol that's probably why the f1 never even got tested at the ring


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BR2+  9y ago

lol This wont do a 1:18, Thats MC12, Zonda F, M600 time, And from a standing start too, Its as Saxy says, It would be between 1:23 and 1:21, If i had to guess, Id say a 1:22.6 Is more then a fitting time. This wont beat a Carrera GT, this wont beat an Enzo, This wont beat a ZR1, It will be fast, But not that fast. A CCX will beat this with or without a spoiler.

And its not about it being tested or not, Its weather its ALLOWED to be tested, Would you allow your 3 million quid car to be tested and pushed to the limits? Not many people shelling out this kind of money for a car are, And if this car crashes, Your in for some serious damage repairs.


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abcdeghi  9y ago

but still they should test it.anyway i think it would do around 1:18-1:20(at least faster than ccx without spoiler).
and people who own them keep them on shelves.


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saxy  9y ago

It would be around the 1:21-1:23 mark.


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abcdeghi  9y ago

why didn't top gear test mclaren f1 around the track when they had chance to do it.they should have tested it then and there as these days can't be seen everyday.i wanted to know how it will peform there.


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Super8  13y ago

Some magazine should make article about Bugatti Veyron Vs Mclaren F1 in track race.