Lotus Evora S laptime at Hockenheim Short

2011 Lotus Evora S completed a lap of Hockenheim Short in 1 minute and 13 seconds.

Track Hockenheim Short
Type flying start
Vehicle Lotus Evora S
Power / weight 351 ps / 1437 kg
Driver Christian Gebhardt
Time 1:13.000
Average speed 128 kph (80 mph)
Notes Lotus Evora S IPS (2012)
Submitted 06.09.2013 by anonymous
Reference http://youtu.be/vM6CkG_TzbA
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Shaggy  4y ago

@ Viking: Yeah, it was slow, but reliable, and agile for a minivan, my grandma had it for over 20 years, it outlived her.


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Viking  4y ago

I don't want to bash Christian Gebhardt too much, but I don't think he has the skills necessary to get good lap times with mid-engine rear drive cars. He is much smoother, and clearly more comfortable driving front wheel drive cars as seen in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2xVePLE3ms


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Viking  4y ago

@Shaggy
I am getting better with the Spyder, but I haven't driven it in competition (yet). I think mid-engined cars require more skill, but of course when driven well they will get the best lap times. Front wheel drive cars are easy since if it gets a bit sideways on corner entry while trail braking, you just add throttle to get instant understeer (despite that trait, I did spin the Neon ACR a few times in competition). Front engine rear drive cars like Corvettes (or Mustangs) are a bit more difficult, but fairly easy to catch when slip angles get too high. Mid-engine rear drive cars have higher trail braking limits, and better grip on corner exit, and those traits give better lap times. However, the centralized weight makes for faster responses/instability (read twitchy handling). Higher skills, smooth inputs, and quick reactions are required to get the most out of mid-engine rear drive cars. Sloppy driving will get slow times.


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Viking  4y ago

@Shaggy I remember the Previa van. Not a very low center of gravity, but indeed mid-engined rear drive. :)


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Shaggy  4y ago

@ Viking: I used to have a mid engine rear wheel drive Toyota for a short while, it even had the same amout of power as your MR2, but it was a 1991 Previa, which has its engine under the driver's seat, so that may not count. LOL :D


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Shaggy  4y ago

@ Viking: I'm pretty sure you could drive a quick lap in a Lotus, especially if you're used to driving mid engine rear wheel drive cars.


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Viking  4y ago

@Shaggy yeah kinda. There are two ways of taking corners at (or slightly beyond) the limit: overdrive it by going in too fast, and exit too hard and be quick with countersteer and other steering inputs (called sawing at the wheel); and the other method is to modulate the brakes and throttle better so that the car needs less steering input. If the car has little steering feel, gives mixed messages, or is just difficult to drive: you might wind up sawing at the wheel anyway. Given that this was a Lotus, I would expect good handling behavior with decent steering feel. So I think Gebhardt was losing time by overdriving it. I found that my best lap times were a bit smoother, with a little less slip angle than that. I don't think a Lotus requires the kind of manhandling he was using. I haven't driven an Evora S, but I do drive a mid-engined rear drive car (with a Toyota engine) so while I am not entirely sure, I do think that I would beat his lap time with that car.


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Shaggy  4y ago

@ Viking: So Christian Gebhardt drives like a rookie? :D


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Viking  4y ago

interesting video, I don't think Christian Gebhardt is all that good of a driver though. Too much steering correction, he should have better throttle control. He is as bad as I was in my first year of competition. I am much better than he is now. I got much better during my 10 years of competition, and I would say even though it has been 8 years since my last season with the SCCA, I am definitely still more skilled than he is based on that video.


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Viking  4y ago

Yep, correct.


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Super8  4y ago

It's correct! It's faster than Grand Sport.


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Shaggy  4y ago

I'll say correct, I can't find a source that says this lap time is incorrect.


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Shaggy  4y ago

I'll need a legitimate source to confirm this lap time. Here we go again.


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Karthick01  4y ago

Is This Lap Time Correct ?.

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