Smells like cheat, but they still put down a badass time, for a front engined car especially

I don't think they cheat.

Enough with "I can't hear the tires so it's cheat" already
They said the same for Performante

The mic is probably not the best quality or placement. It sounds tinny here and very flat crank-ish. Is it really flat crank engine? Either way it is impressive how well it revs, considering its a turbo 8.

Same as Hockenheim mic setup

It sounds like a McLaren and I couldn't come up with worse insult for a v8 sound

It sounds like something between cross and flat plane crank.

I didn't say anything about tires.Even if I did, the perf was awd, on slicks, and I still heard some tire spin (very ocasionally tho)

V8 TDI

The Performante was on semi-slicks actually :)

Actually some Mclarens sound better

From outside and with gnarly exhaust and with lots of revs.

I still like the sound of 3.8 liter V8s that was on Mp4, P1, 650S, and 675LT
But as the models got more powerful, the sound got worse and now to hairdryer level

1:07

I am not sure about that. I actually like turbodiesel sounds (r5 r6 v6 v8). V8 tdi probably makes nicer v8 tone at 3000 rpm than mclaren at 3000 rpm.

The older ones surely do. Not so sure about the new SQ7 tho

No.

Yes

wtf I've just posted the exact opposite of what you're saying... there's no tire noise at all.

good insulated interior

Yeah, maybe.

That shouldn't be necessary as it's a track fucosed car

The additional 230 metres 20.83km is mandatory to have the record certified whereas the time for the 20.6km distance is optional :)

Isn’t AMG’s time is certified laptime and Lamborghini simply published the video of their run - no 3rd party verification that the car in production like condition, etc.

Nurburgring management introduced measures in 2020 which was designed to make record attempts more transparent and required cars to complete the full 20.83 km lap. This wasn't the case before 2020 where manufacturers like Porsche, McLaren and Lamborghini did their own thing. So if nothing else we now have a level playing field where lap times must be certified which makes it unquestionable and makes cheating claims obsolete.

I'm glad they did this. Especially when considering how many cars get insane and unachievable lap times (SVJ just for example).

Oh come now surely you're not one of the conspiracy theorists who thinks the SVJ lap time wasn't real? Of course you've got evidence to back up your claim, yes? lol

https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/h8lllsi5o8ia
This could be an evidence.
SVJ is only a bit slower at Nordschleife, but not even close at other tracks.

Lmao, why would you think that? It's literally just average on any other track. Even if you get your 4 alt accounts to dislike my comment again, that won't convince me it's real.

WTF four accounts to dislike your comments? Are you fcuking delusional lol. I'm still waiting for EVIDENCE not SPECULATION that proves the SVJ didn't set the record? Well i'm waiting Einstein :P

"Unachievable laptimes"
Yeah Ight
It's not my fault that it's harder to get used to than a RWD dual clutch track car
They said and still say the same about Performante
Can't wait to see you talk about STO's time soon :))

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"Hell even much less powerful 600LT is faster and can keep up with this bull"
Where?
On Willow Springs which Lambo had a brake issue?
Lol ok

"It's not my fault that it's harder to get used to than a RWD dual clutch track car" Lmao are you serious? Since when is ANY supercar after 2010 hard to drive for professionals? We're not talking about a Dodge Viper, or a Lotus Exige. It's about technologically advanced high-tech computers on wheels who appear to have lots of power.

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I realise you're intellectually challenged but here's a fact for you. I have not and will not ever use an alt on this or any other site so stop talking shit.

"Murcielago69: 1 minute ago"
Do you really think I'm that stupid?

Aventador is the heaviest one and since 2014 every car started to become a computer on wheels
Not Aventador
It weighs 1700kgs and still has single clutch gearbox and only makes 400kgs of downforce at top speed
How much downforce does that Merc make?
what you see on SVJ is pure mechanical power with the help of the ALA system to keep it balanced and on the ground
Of course it has became more and more advanced over the years but not close to some cars like GT2 and AMG which take some techs directly from their GT3/GT2 Brothers

And even then we still talk about a car for 500k who can't afford decent brakes for some tracks.

Oh dear you really are embarrassing yourself.

4 dislikes and my comment already gets the "This post has received too much negative feedback and is hidden". If anyone is embarrassing themselves it's you with your alts, my friend. Cause even on Fastestlaps the Lambo fanboys aren't awake around this time.

Just admit the Nürburgring record was just a marketing stunt and it is easily beaten by the competition everywhere else. At least now that its record was beaten.

"Lambo fanboys aren't awake at this time"
Am I a joke to you?

Hey you said that, not me ;)

Yeah, that one second is pretty much nothing - but everything as well on the other hand. In racing there are even milliseconds deciding where you stand on the podium. I think the AMG time is pretty awesome, tbh. I wasn't that confident about their try to beak the record before. The GT BS has ~40 HP less than the SVJ and weighs a bit more as well. Still, Mercedes showed in the VLN what the GT is able to do... it's a very well engineered car. Mercedes now really managed to perfectly optimize that beast. And the SVJ is pretty much the "Black Series" version of the Aventador, right?! I mean... we're talking about Tiger vs. Lion here. Two absolutely cracked cars. Regarding to that small margin there are a lot of factors which could result in a different time... the driver in the first place, then the tires, the weather (the SVJ had better conditions as far as I remember, though). The Huracán STO could also beat the GT2 RS MR on a good day. Porsche is on their way with the 992 GT3 RS and the GT2 RS will come in the next 1-2 years as well, so a possible Huracán record probably wouldn't last that long. But hey... that's why this is still exciting, right?! Wouldn't it be boring if there would only be one manufacturer dominating the ring? In the next years there will always be a battle between Porsche, Lamborghini, maybe AMG and hopefully Ferrari and McLaren as well. The Huracán STO will be insane, though. I mean just look at that wing... :D It will be crazy!

I mean who won't call me a fanboy?
When they have nothing to say

"The GT BS has ~40 HP less than the SVJ and weighs a bit more as well" It won't be until the Black Series is eventually put on a dyno that we'll know for certain as to how much peak hp it really has. In addition, it's not clear how much the car actually weighs but the kerb weight is likely to be less than the SVJ. The Huracan STO could very well take the Nurb crown from the AMG. Watch this space :)

Yeah, seems legit. Let's have a look. I mean it would be kinda weak if the STO would NOT take the crown, since it's still in development. That's pretty much always the reason why the newer car is in 99% of the cases quicker than a similar powered car a couple of months before. But that makes it exciting for us as well, so I'm happy about that. Would be cool if Ferrari wouldn't be so "afraid" and simply start on the ring as well - officially. McLaren, too. I'm also super excited about the upcoming clash of the giants... Mercedes-AMG ONE, Aston Martin Valkyrie and Koenigsegg Jesko (the track optimized car). A 918 Spyder successor won't be there before 2023, just like a successor to the LaFerrari and McLaren P1. I also heard about Audi planning a (probably all electric) hypercar and Bugatti planning an track-only beast. Totally obsolete, but I'd love it. :D

I mean, your literal name is Lambolover. Obviously people will call you biased.

Mercedes weighs more?
1640kgs(AMG) vs ~1700kgs(SVJ)

You’re completely right, the SVJ Nurburgring video was sped up. Source: Misha Charoudin

It doesn’t add up, the car is insanely heavy and so much slower on other tracks compared to GT2RS.

If manufacturer was to cheat, the easiest way would be to use super aggressive full slick tyres or mess with the power and suspension. But speeding up video - it seems very cheap to me. I wonder if there is a programmatic method of identifying sped up or slowed down video. Something like AI which is trained to notice subtle signs that humans can't pick up.

If they are showing speedometer you can compare distance travelled versus speed indicated and that would be easy. But it could be prone to error.

There are a few youtubers who claim that the video Lamborghini released for the SVJ Nurb record was sped up which makes me laugh. When one takes a closer look to the car speedo which is at times is visible and factors in the overread of 3.5% it's pretty obvious the speeds are almost identical to the GT2RS GPS speedo so that claim is rubbish.

Misha Said SVJ video was sped up?
Misha the bear or Misha Charoudin?

Like i keep saying to all the naysayers instead of making statements without any foundation show us the evidence and surprise surprise they've got nothing. Pathetic lol

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Oh you mean Autocar Handling course which SVJ was faster than almost everyone or Hockenheim GP where GT2 was 2 secs slower?
Lets not forget that Performante was also a car that was doubted to do 6:52 but it kicked 918's butt at 8/12 tracks and was the fastest Supercar at the time on 8 tracks

Or the Euro Speedway Lausitz where it was barely faster than a much weaker GT R Pro ;) massive success for a 500k dollar car.
And besides, the 918 Spyder never was a track car. I don't doubt the Huracan's capabilities because it already proved several times to be faster than its bigger brother. Not just in a straight line. The Aventador is just a fashion statement

Huracan faster in straight line?
I thought you stopped telling jokes

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Ok now that's funny
We laughed

you do know the GT2RS lap was done by a very inferior driver which was the same lap time as a 10 year old last gen gt2rs? The only laps the SVJ beat the GT2RS is when the Porsche was on worse tires. A much closer comparison would be the 720S, which beats the SVJ both in a straight line and around most tracks, whether or not it was using equal or worst rubber.

I've never liked to use the ring as a benchmark because it's more to do with how much effort that company put to make that lap time great, and less to do with the actual car's average ability when delivered to you.

Aventadors have always had brake issues during track lapping. It's NOT a great track car, but it's one of the greatest at being a supercar full stop. The Performante was always a better track car, and the new STO will be even better, hopefully.

F*cking thank you. I couldn't have said it better. Finally someone says how it is and doesn't praise the SVJ like all those Lambo fanboys here.

Not to mention the shortshifts that Gebhardt did on the SVJ lap
Aventador is a good track car. Ofc not as good as some lighter cars like GT3 RS, Performante, AMG GTR/BS
A Fun fact: other supercars always have a big bump in power and a huge reduction in weight when it comes to their ultimate track versions
GT2 RS and Turbo S(+120HP, -150kgs) , Corvette C7 Z06 and ZR1(+105HP) 488 GTB and Pista(+50Hp, -100 kgs)
But Aventador only had a 70hp bump and a 50 kg reduction in like 8 years and it still competes with it's rivals and beats some of them on track
Same with Huracan(+30hp, -81kgs)

How about the Big Willow lap? Magny-Cours Club lap where it was slower than a base Huracan evo? It's the ultimate most marketed hardcore track lambo, and the "king of the green hell". it shouldn't be just about as fast as under supercars, let alone slower than some non-track version cars.

Well the ZR1 is not lighter than the Z06.

The GT2RS is not based off the turbo S. It's more a GT3RS with the turbo engine.

Given how much bigger and heavier the Aventador always was over the Huracan, I never understood why they were only able to get so little weight off the car. That's why I've always been more of a fan of the Performante

"How about the Big Willow lap? Magny-Cours Club lap where it was slower than a base Huracan evo?" Then again we can use Tommy Maino at Circuito Tazio Nuvolari as an example which paints a slightly different picture. Like i've been saying there's only a small difference between the GT2RS,720S,Pista and SVJ on track providing you've got a driver who can push the cars to their limits which most cannot :)
https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/circuito-tazio-nuvolari

4 pot C63 would be like electric Mustang with a crossover body.... Oh wait.. That actually happened....

fortunately the turbo c63 with the four banger hybrid ISN'T going to happen afterall.. since there will be a six banger c53

The only difference being that a 4 pot-C63 will be the only C63 and the top model of the range while one can still buy a 760 hp 5.2 V8 Mustang...

Lmao. At this point you could get more of an AMG with a tuned W205 C43.

A 4-cyl. + e-motor C63 would be the end of it. But it seems kinda realistic when you take a look at the Chinese invasion of Mercedes. China is buying Europe. In the Top 50 of the most valuable German companies there is everywhere at least one Chinese investor. Germany is leading in so many engineering-segments and Chinese companies are trying to buy it all. That's actually the reason why Germany is creating a new law, which says that foreign investors are not allowed to buy more than 10% of a German company (currently it's still 25%).