29 Porsche 918 beats McLaren P1. Again.

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In the real world, all-wheel-drive traction is often more valuable than power-to-weight ratio. And, yes, race-track is part of "the real world".

Porsche 918 has excelled again, beating McLaren P1 in yet another laptime test.

In his YouTube series with unpronounceable name "LTACY", American entrepreneur Alejandro Salomon presented a 3-way track battle between Porsche 918, McLaren P1 and Viper ACR.

Both McLaren and Porsche wore the same Pirelli P-Zero Trofeo R tyres and both suffered from battery overheating due to 48C air temperature at the Thermal Club Raceway. Apparently, McLaren P1 was especially affected, entering "limp home" mode on the straights.

Laptimes for a new, longer Thermal Club Raceway layout are published here.

 

5y ago by FastestLaps
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John12  4y ago

Nice


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BR2+  4y ago

Im curious as to where and how you get which is better then the other?

Theres no such thing as the better car, Thats as subjective as which is the prettiest color.

@Sonatine
Theres not gonna be a GT3RS 4.2, thats a fact.

Where are you getting any of this stuff your saying which certainly isnt fact?


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Chanante  4y ago

Sonatine. One cuestion which is the cars in the same segment like a Turbo S or GT3RS for you? Because Huracan, 650S and 488 are better than turbo S.


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Sonatine  4y ago

The 918 Spyder is simply an amazing piece of engineering. Horacio Pagani calls it "perfect" and I think that he should be able to judge. Porsche really knows their business - just take also a look at the 991/.2 Turbo (S) and the 991 GT3 RS. Both are superior in their segments.

But even as a Porsche-fan and during the fact that the 918 Spyder is a bit better on the most racetracks, I have to say that McLaren builds awesome hyper- and supercars and the P1 is the most amazing Hybrid-hypercar beside of the 918 Spyder and the Regera in my opinion. And beside of Porsche and Koenigsegg, McLaren is my most favourite sportscar-manufacturer.

I am so looking forward for Porsches next masterpieces.

  • 991.2 GT3 RS 4.2 and 991.2 GT2 RS (2017)
  • 911 Generation 8 (2018)
  • the Porsche 960 Hybrid with ~800 HP at the basic-model (2019)
  • Porsche Mission E with >600 HP all-electric (2020)
  • Porsche >1000 HP 918 Spyder successor (~2022)

The 960 is going to be an Hybrid just as the 918. It's also going to have AWD but Porsche says that it's going to become a much lighter car, so maybe it's going to beat the 918 Spyder times. Another fact is that the 800 HP version is going to be only the basic-model but just as the 911 GT3 and GT3 RS, there is going to be at least one more powerful version. The Mission E is going to be another great supercar with more than 600 all-electric HP and more than 500 km of range while using it very sportive (Tesla Model S can only accelerate one time at full power).


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CryztalBT  4y ago

@BR2+
Why should Porsche build a "berzerk" version of the 918 when they got the 919 Hybrid, winning LeMans in LMP1 series? :P


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BR2+  5y ago

.....Wow..


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carfanboy  5y ago

Took a second to figure it out but his name isn't a name, it's an acronym for Lets Talk About Cars Yo. Peace. Also i'm having a tough time with this anti spam thing, what am i missing.


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saxy  5y ago

I mean not even that... Lower ride height, much bigger wings, fromt and back, that's already worth a couple seconds. Add wider tires, and another couple seconds. But they would be very difficult to live with


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BR2+  5y ago

They could go faster, Hell McLaren already has a P1 LeMans, Although they should have made alot more, Porsche could add a 918 Spyder RS, And Ferrari could add a LaFerrari Evo FX, All stripped down more hardcore versions of there car, I wouldnt mind, But there price would hit the fkn moon, And few people care sure, But lets be honest, How many actually do if they own them? Plus i dont see many people taking these cars on long arse trips cross country, Sure there are some, But not many, And Salomon, I dont take anything he does seriously, He just buys expensive cars then sells them when he can make more money which he doesnt need, So i personally cant call him a "Real" enthusiast, Not that that matters.


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saxy  5y ago

well... they do give a little shit. Saloman does =) Again, I can't emphasize enough how these cars could have easily been made to go many seconds faster if their manufacturers really wanted to, but that would simply ruin every day real life driving. So in the end if it's just a bit difference between the cars in performance, it really shouldn't matter that much.


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BR2+  5y ago

...Now who didnt see this debate coming?

Either they say good job on all parts.

Or theres some kind of foul play when the car they want doesnt get a faster time lol

But on a more serious note, I dont care for this show nor the presenters, Nor do i take them seriously, But the 918 had the faster lap here, Fact. Butits not like anyone who owns any of these cars gives to shites,


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tharne  5y ago

On that i believe we can all agree on. McLaren took a hard hit with the heat.


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noname00  5y ago

Let's not forget that the McLaren is turbo, and it lost more power than the NA Porsche due to the heat. On a cold day, the difference would not be that big.


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saxy  5y ago

People will believe anything they want. Lol. If they were sandbagging they would not have said the P1 was suffering from the heat.

Batteries and turbo engines do not like hot air conditions. That is an absolute fact whether or not the car goes into limp mode. I recall the GT2 RS in hot temps had around only 500hp left. Le Mans cars are easily 1-2 seconds faster at night than in mid day.


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manone  5y ago

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FastestLaps  5y ago

What the hell are you talking about? What logs and why rubbish? You mean the driver was sandbagging McLaren on purpose?

Comooon...


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manone  5y ago

i never stop getting stunned at how people take seriously this junk...
after checking the logs of the first test they did, i dismissed these as 0 reliabilty rubbish... at least they seem having fun doing these, so good for them.


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tharne  5y ago

rizzy sounds like cosimo.....barking....The only reason why the viper is competing here is because Alejandro could not get a laferrari. When i first saw the numbers been posted here i was like how the McLaren was that far off from Porsche. I was doubting this numbers at first till i saw the video then i understood why it suffer so much.


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BR2+  5y ago

For future reference, Stick to a SINGLE name.

I also wouldnt buy an ACR, im not taking my car to the track every weekend, Every month maybe, But not doing that would be abusing it, But id gladly buy the hell out of a T/A.

LOL Yeva notice that the people always hating on the car are the ones talking bout it the most? lol


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saxy  5y ago

A race car driver can lap the Nurburgring in a van faster than you in a supercar. Maybe you need to drive an ACR and many other supercars before you give out such brainless opinions.