BMW M4 vs Lexus RC F

But Lexus engine is solid, otherwise BMW M-series could broke as early as 100tkm...
N55 my own broke, friends M3 S54 broke and so on, we are talking about 12000- 20000€ repair costs....

Pretty good achievement from Lexus to get that close to the BMW M4 on track, did the M4 have traction issues or anything like that?

Let me clarify that by no means am I a fan of the Lexus RC F. Its platform has barely changed since its introduction in 2005 with the IS and GS sedans. It's weak compared to the rest of the D-segment especially with its porky curb weight figures. HOWEVER, I would like to point out that contrary to the majority's belief about the Lexus RC F, the car was not ever designed to tackle the BMW M4 or Mercedes-AMG C63. The RC F was supposed to be a comfortable cruiser with extra performance and purity for the modern driver.

The RC F is not an M4 or C63 competitor at all, but it's also not a 440i or C450 competitor (the M440i and C43 weren't even out yet). It's not highly expensive either, all Lexus F Performance models start at near fully-loaded prices, as opposed to Audi S and RS, BMW M, Mercedes-AMG, and Porsche cars.

The Lexus RC comes with much higher tech, more front legroom, and a much longer and more radical-looking front clip than the IS. It's more like the BMW 6 Series and Mercedes-Benz E-Class (2-door variants). The RC was not designed with sportiness in mind.

The M4 and C63 might have started at $5k more in MSRP, but loaded up with a maximum number of options their prices climbed up to $100k+. The RC F, only around $70-75k (unless you opt for the Carbon or Track Edition models).

Lexus is not a high-tier luxury brand. Instead, it's more like Cadillac, Lincoln or Genesis. It's certainly higher than Acura and Infiniti, that's for sure.

The RC F's main competitors were the RS5, 650i, and E550 coupes (in terms of both overall size and performance), but it started at the same price as a mid-loaded RS3, a mid-loaded M2 (but not Competition or CS), and a mid-loaded CLA45 AMG.

Lexus is pretty much a mix of Cadillac and Dodge, but headquarted in Japan right next to Toyota. A big car with high performance priced at the same level as a sport compact = a muscle car or pony car.

TL;DR: The RC originally creeped into E-segment, but given the outdated tech it barely rivals the newer D-segment coupes. The high-performance C-segment premium cars are more expensive than the RC F and its IS500 F Sport Performance sedan sibling, fully loaded versus fully loaded.

The M4 is in a completely different league. And we're talking about the base model.

Come on, if you’re gonna say the RCF is stupidly expensive for how slow it is, the. There’s the LC500 which carries a 6 figure price tag which is slower than any of the F series lexus cars

Wins ten of eleven tracks and the M4 gets only forty more points.

Wow the RC-F is so embarrassing for a $65k sports coupe

A 0-150 time of 24 seconds is very impressive for a car that traps 112 mph in the 1/4 mile. That's the acceleration of an NA Lexus. 119 mph is normal for a car that does 150 in 21 seconds.

It’s all about feel and sound. Do you prefer a proper n/a engine or a “ Dyson” under your hood !

Dry: M4
Wet: LCF

It´s like a tyre comparison

No i ment his choice

Why is it surprising ? Lexus weighs ~ 300 kgs more than M4 and M4 has about 470-480 bhp for real.

Thats surprising.

I'd still take the Lexus.

Unfortunately, the rcf is no match for the m4.

Does anyone know when lexus will introduce a twin clutch transmission for their f performance cars ?

are nissan and mitsubishi the only jdm cars using twin clutch in japan ?