Ferrari 458 Speciale specs

Over here on FL's sister site AT, the 458 Speciale is reported to do the 400m sprint in 11.0sec. That's accurate, even with the 9.2s 0-200kph time.

I don't mean to badmouth Ferrari, but sometimes their 400m estimates are based on a prepped strip, perhaps without the one-foot rollout; or it could be the other way around. American automakers absolutely do both.

https://accelerationtimes.com/models/ferrari-458-speciale

10.7sec is possible with EITHER a rollout OR on a dragstrip. A 10.4sec time is possible because the 458S, the 12C, and the original Aventador/Huracan all share the same power-to-weight ratio.

Ferrari and US automakers are rarely "conservative" with any performance figure.

I've made calculated acceleration figures for some V8 Ferraris using available data about aerodynamics, gear ratios, torque curves and so on.
It's interesting to compare it with tested figures.

Name---0-100kph—0-160kph—0-200kph—0-250kph—0-300kph-400m(kph)-1000m(kph)-top speed
308GTB QV------5,6---13,8---23,1---58,2---(---)---14,0(161,2)---25,5(206,3)---256,4
328GTB-----------5,4---12,7---20,6---42,0---(---)---13,8(167,4)---24,9(214,9)---266,6
348TB-------------5,5---12,4---20,5---44,3---(---)---13,7(165,2)---24,9(217,8)---272,6
348GTB-----------5,4---11,9---19,7---41,0---(---)---13,7(167,4)---24,7(217,4)---275,4
F355 (manual)-4,7---10,2---15,7---27,9---(---)---12,8(183,2)---23,0(237,6)---292,5
355 F1 (auto)---4,6---10,0---15,4---27,6---(---)---12,8(184,0)---22,9(238,0)---292,5
360 Modena-----4,4---9,4-----14,4---24,9---(---)---12,5(189,0)---22,4(243,0)---294,5
360CS--------------4,3---9,0-----13,6---23,4---(---)---12,3(192,6)---22,0(245,5)---295,9
F430-----------------3,8---8,0----12,0---20,7---45,3---11,7(197,6)---21,2(251,6)---315,3
430 Scuderia----3,4---7,0----10,8---18,6---42,4---11,3(204,1)---20,5(257,4)---317,3
458 Italia----------3,1---6,5-----9,9----16,4---30,6---10,9(210,2)---19,8(268,2)---327,2
458 Speciale----2,9---6,1-----9,2----15,5---29,9---10,7(215,3)---19,4(271,8)---328,0

Ferrari/Quattroruote's claims for 0-100 and 0-200 km/h may be based on rollout. There is no way that even on the most perfect day with the most professional driver that this thing is doing 0-100 km/h in 3.0 (which is 60 mph in 2.9) without a 1' rollout, which the Americans and CarWow use.

Think the 458 Speciale should be crowned the Top Future Classic Car? Vote for it in this poll! https://news.jardinemotors.co.uk/lifestyle/iconic-cars/future-classic-cars

458 Speciale against the 991.2 turbo S
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/3btam631uj80

The 2nd greatest Naturally Aspirated car ever after the 812 Superfast..just ahead of One 77 and GT12.

F 458 Speciale Weight 1290kg, why such a large difference in stated weights

Change the 458 speciale curb weight to 3199 Ibs 1451 kg.
Road&Track
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/features/a6344/ferrari-458-speciale-dragon/

Anglessey Coastal lap time 1:43.32 condition :damp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysaE9i2RNyE
991 GT3 did 1;43.6 at damp condition

Joe where is the link of the laptime of the 458 speciale in nurburgring north? Because as far as I can remember it is the 488 that did a 7:21 lap.

The new record of Nurburgring North is 7"21, that's awesome!

458 Speciale vs 458 Italia :

@powerslidelover. yes. it would be nice to go back to monza with some new tyres on the speciale and espcially with the black laferrari. low traffic day, just to set some decent benchmark on the mother of all tracks. ever tried mugello or imola?

Monza 2.00.31
https://youtu.be/OZbzO8tMMjI

Nice review. I can see an incredible fun and driving excitement on his face while he is driving 458 Speciale.

Ferrari should not stop producing N/A V8 cars.

Curb weight 1290kg

0-80 kph as 0-50 mph is one of the very few mph/kph substitutes allowed. But what is the issue date of Autocar magazine where this was published?

0-80 kph = 0-50 mph: 2.6

http://www.germancarforum.com/attachments/f81b5dc03f0db65df31a32c3a5b2de98-jpg.346580/

7.27.8 in Nürburgring

New track (Motown Mile) and new laptimes:
http://www.porscheboost.com/content.php?5420-Road-and-Track-2015-Performance-Car-of-the-Year-test-figures-Lap-Times-1-4-mile-curb-weight-etc
1 2014 Ferrari 458 Speciale 51.92 sec 142.1 mph
2 2015 Nissan GT-R Nismo 51.93 sec 141.7 mph
3 2014 Porsche 911 GT3 52.18 sec 139.7 mph
4 2015 Dodge Viper SRT TA 52.36 sec 137.2 mph
5 2013 Ferrari F12Berlinetta 52.97 sec 144.4 mph
6 2014 Porsche 911 Turbo 53.02 sec 140.5 mph
7 2014 Mercedes SLS AMG Black Series 53.66 sec 135.8 mph
8 2014 Nissan GT-R Track Edition 53.76 sec 135.6 mph
9 2013 SRT Viper 54.55 sec 138.9 mph
10 2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 54.66 sec 131.2 mph
11 2014 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 54.80 sec 135.5 mph
12 2013 Porsche 911 Carrera 55.03 sec 133.5 mph
13 2014 Audi R8 V10 55.18 sec 135.9 mph
14 2012 Lexus LFA 55.48 sec 130.6 mph
15 2015 BMW M3 55.53 sec 132.3 mph
16 2015 Jaguar F-Type V8 55.84 sec 134.4 mph
17 2013 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 55.86 sec 133.9 mph
18 2013 BMW M6 Competition Pack 55.89 sec 133.8 mph
19 2015 Lexus RC F 56.08 sec 128.8 mph
20 2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 56.19 sec 134.8 mph
21 2013 Jaguar XFR-S 56.33 sec 131.6 mph
22 2015 Dodge Challenger Hellcat 56.37 sec 131.5 mph
23 2015 Jaguar F-Type R 56.37 sec 133.5 mph
24 2014 Porsche Cayman S 56.73 sec 125.1 mph
25 2015 Ford Mustang GT 56.81 sec 127.2 mph
26 2014 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE 56.83 sec 126.2 mph
27 2013 Audi RS5 56.83 sec 126.0 mph
28 2014 Aston Martin Rapide S 57.01 sec 130.7

Heres the order they came in.

Still though, 2 BDCC, Both AC and MT, Yet you have to opposite conclusions from 1 car, The 4C, Ones all the way at the top, And ones all the wayat the bottom, I find that facinating.

Still, Just looking at that list, Id have to say the BDCC car top 5 would be.. The Megane, Atom, Stingray, Cayman, GT3.

F-type R might be a great car but im sure its not a great drivers car. Its probably too tail happy. You could say its as much a drivers car as an SLS AMG, or maybe less. Its a heavy oversteery GT car it wont win any driver's car titles anytime soon.

For me F-type R should be at 7th positon, but i dont know how it would compare with M4.
Jag has that charisma, and it is more of a fun car than clinical drivers car with subtele handlig, but that does not make it bad car for right driver. However its a bad car for bad driver.

Same with cars like GT-R, Megane - those are good car for those that arent driving masters, they will be fast and still it will be fun for them.

Arent all Speciale's special?

@P

I dont mind Steve Suitcliff, By im no big fan of AutoCar as a whole, Espescially when it comes to any car thats not British, DOnt like Johnny Liebermann from MotorTrend either, But for different reasons.

Im also not saying a Megane is better then an F-Type, But simply a better Drivers car, We all have different opinions on what a Real Drivers car is though, SO somebodys gotta complain.

@Luque

I agree, Im sick of this hyped up press car bullshite, and not advertised power figures, Just give them the car and the keys with no bs, And if the car has 610Bhp, THATS what it should have.

maybe it was special speciale

Of course.
And what about the 911 Turbo S tested by SPORT AUTO with 607ps (560 ps declared) and 784 Nm or the Lamborghini Huracan tested by Autobild with 631 ps instead of 610 ?
They are turbo SUPER S or HURACAN special edition for the presse ?

@BR2
I never ranked AutoCar too high, those journalists aren't top level. There is many bullshit reviews from AutoCar, that could be done better just by some car enthusiast. They are not on Chris HArris level. For example Steve Sutcliffe isnt bad driver, but, he is just so flat in looking on cars. Hes "test" GT-R vs M5 is just bullshit. And just look at reviews of this Matt Saunders, its just bad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCq39DRvNKE

But, even with this, i can agree, that 4C is very specific car, and very first attemp from Alfa Romeo to produce mid engined mini-supercar. Cayman is build for 20 years, with over 50 Porsche expirience. 4C will be btter in future but now, i just looking like great concept not like great car but maybe its fault of particular car.

I do nor trust in MotorTrend as much too.

But oever all i can agree for the top6, cayman, GT3, 650S, Atom, Stingray its just too much of the competition, they are the bests from the bests, so in this car range 7th place may be great award for that car. but i doubt that Megane/I8 is better than JAg R Type, ok, the car is hard to master, but that doesnt mean that its bad. Ok just try to master it, and do not complain that its too hard, maybe You are bad driver instead car is bad.
Same to 4C - it might be great but in the right road with right driver.

maybe it was special speciale

That car realy deserves that award.

@Piorun

They also ranked the 4C and F Type at the opposite ends of Motor Trends decision, That win certainly does not make it better or worse, I think AutoCar is a joke.