Ferrari F12 Berlinetta specs

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/reviews/a5969/ferrari-f12berlinetta-road-test/
Could you change ferrari f12 berlinetta's torque to 509lb-ft

AlVolante actually got these results:
0-100 km/h in 4.3 secs
0-160 km/h in 7.8 secs
0-200 km/h in 10.9 secs
0-400 m in 12.1 secs at 212 km/h
0-1000 m in 20.8 secs at 280 km/h

0-30 in 1.2 is crazy impressive for Road & Track matching mid engine 720s.

New 812 Superfast

Dont expect too much from it. It will be for sure fantastic super GT car that sounds great but when we talk about performance we cant be sure anything...We do not know anything about performance of TDF so its not easy to say how fast F12M will be.

Lol if the car had 800 hp and stayed in low downforce trim it would be the fastest Ferrari, like ever

It will have a Turbocharged V6 with variable telemetry valved synchronous meshed push stabilizers, And a TCT(Triple Clutch Transmission) with Auto synchro rev matching, And tyres filed with uranium, Fluorine and helium.

The so called F12M should have at least 800 HP. But even with that kind of power it wouldnt be faster in acceleration than Mclaren 675 LT. Ferrari F12 is a supercar but its a super GT car. I will not expect staggering performance from F12M. Car will be too heavy to have great power to weight ratio and they cant have much more power from existing V12 car if it needs to be reliable and elastic.

This argument would be good if it ahppened when F12 was anounced, the dealers of 599 GTO was angry for that. F12 TDF is a special car with only 600 models in the world with different combination colors, more track focused and a more radical setup. May be the next will be fast than F12 tdf but less especial and less radical.

Interesting. If next front engine Ferrari is still N.A., those who bought F12 TDF will be really pissed off. The main reason for buying it was all the hype about how this will be the last "proper V12 Ferrari".

As far the 488 Speciale, I don't think another 30 - 50 horsepower will make the difference. The car is just too heavy and soft, compared to McLarens.

You can see in the video when the F12 remplacement pass sounds a N/A and "488 Speciale" sounds a turbo engine:

The president of Ferrari said the last year that the V12 will not change to V8 in the high GT class, and:

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/09/ferrari-f12-replacement-to-retain.html

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-geneva-motor-show/2017-ferrari-f12-m-successor-f12-caught-video

(sounds like a N/A)

http://www.luxury4play.com/luxury-cars/wohoo-20160919/

and more...

According to who, RumorMill Inc? N.A. engines will never match turbos in power to weight ratio, its not possible physically.

Not. The sustitute of F12 will be a N/A V12 more eficient and powerfull engine with less weight.

It will be turbocharged. I am willing to bet. But for that Ferrari need to develop a brand new engine from ground up. They may still use much of the tech they already for the V8 TT still.

But it has to be a twelve. There are two types of Ferraris - V8s and V12es. And there should be nothing between, below or beyond :D

There is more and more infos about F12's successor. I hope that it will be an incredible car.

I dont no how anybody can be disspointed with this car.

You know, instead of looking at the cars slowest times, Look at its fastest ones, That shows you the potential that it has and what it can do, The F12 has already topped 220kph in the 1/4, The fastest time is 10.6@223kph by Quattroruote, And in that first vid you posted, It achieved 10.7@135 in the same day. This isnt supposed to be real sharp like a 458, Thats what the 458 lineup is for, Its more extreme in looks and power, But as ability go the 458 is more extreme. People will take the F12 to the strip and for an autobahn cruise, The 458 they will take it to the track and to the beach to cruise. And any car that does a 1:09.9 at hockenheim, Or 7:33 at the Ring Is what id call VERY fearsome. If you want a car thats pure speed in accel, Make it one, Because there isnt a single car on sale today thats a pure dragster. Nobody understands why you can be dissapointed.

Im just disappointed. I thought that F12 would be one of the fastest supercars when we talk about straight line acceleration. I know that its a GT car so i m aware that on tracks it is not a monster but i thought that this is a car that can trap 1/4 mile at ~220 km/h, 1/2 mile at 265 km/h, 1km at about 280 km/h and 1mile at ~30x km/h.

But all i 've found is that :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y_29m-_21Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isw3eQiFkPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZaqUW4BlBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGH0kDtXG04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlv8J9lp0b4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSdMq_TpYZY

Not very optimistic results....

But you didn't put the opinion Of thee "press" You Wrote That, Either way it' like saying which is the best color, And you can't decide which car is better by simply reading an article, no matter how many people agree or disagree lol

And yes dddddddd is insane

But I love how people just no what cars people have and haven't driven lol

Not, I dont put my opinion, put the opinion of the press. In all test 488 is better and in a few videos 488 is fast, you only have to read the articles and have a similar conclusion. Or is more relevant than a man that not drive any supercar said that F12 is slow?

ok, it is your opinion but the reality is for example a 488 or Laferrari ...they dont think loke you. 488 is much better supercar than 650 S ( tts or huracan have serious performance but 488 is better, fast and better to drive, more fun) because is better in the corner and have a more racing fee

lol You just stated an opinion too, Absolutely hilarious.

dddd. You put the same since Ferrari whows the F12. F12 is a super car but is a super car in GT format. its diferent configuration. you say that Porsche, Mclaren and Lambo make better super cars. ok, it is your opinion but the reality is for example a 488 or Laferrari ...they dont think loke you. 488 is much better supercar than 650 S ( tts or huracan have serious performance but 488 is better, fast and better to drive, more fun) because is better in the corner and have a more racing feel, 650 is very near in straight lone, ok but in a circuit 488 is near than 675lt, you can se the Evo magazine in Anglesey. yes Ferrari have a poor performance, dddd only have the true. long live dddddddddd

...Wtf is a real supercar?..

It is not hard to notice that Mclaren, Porsche and Lamborghini are very strong and produce real supercars of very high performance.

Can Ferrari compete with them ? Its sad but F-cars are the least technologically advanced and the slowest in classes and price segments. They are still great and fun to drive but slow and full of old tech.

So whats the meaning of a fast car?...lol?

You can compare a Camaro ZL1, 650ps and same weight than F12... F12 distroy chevy. You compare a na 740ps front engine with 1700kg with a 650ps turbo (power in more range of revs than a N/A) with 1400kg and have a real similar performance when you put the F12 at 8700rpm not a 7500..easy. F12 is fast really fast, 650s is faster? yes, ok but it isnt the meaning of fast car...

Your standards are just way too damned high, Do you expect it to perform like a Venom?

It was heavily tuned TTS ofcourse. It seems that F12 is slow not only for me...Its a great car but it performs like ~620-650 HP car that weighs ~ 1750 kgs...

Very boring chat for a little kid. tts 178mph in a 1/2 mile?? lol it is inposible. You only said the same. F12 is slow for you, and you try to the rest think like you...

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferrari-discussion-not-model-specific/532605-whats-ferrari-bogus-hp-numbers.html