I also noticed this debate about the 3000GT Twin Turbo vs the Type R.
Well, it just so happens that I actually owned a 1996 6 speed Mitsu GTO Twin Turbo, factory spec (I never modify my cars). It was about as fast as my current RS6, and actually a bit quicker downlow - I'd recon the RS6 would be about half a car to a car ahead at 250kph.
It appears no one watched the links the poster provided.
Are the GTOs/VR4s clunky, piggish cars? Yes, in many aspects they are awful, outdated cars - but their straight line merit is highly impressive. They do 60mph well under 5 seconds with a monkey at the wheel.
Published figures from US AND UK magazines show faster times for the VR4/GTO TT than the new 2017/2018 Type R, and by quite a bit at that. If averaged out, the GTO TT/VR4 does 60mph in 4.7s and the quarter mile in 13.2@103mph. My personal best run was email@example.com...so about .5s faster ET than the FASTEST recorded time for the Type R with barely any difference in trap speed. Even if the Type R trapped 172kph, for instance, it's not winning due to the absolutely massive ET difference.
Again, my GTO TT was factory spec down to the wheels. I had it dynod - It makes FAR more horsepower than stated by Mitsubishi, and anyone involved in the Mitsubishi community knows that, these cars make more like 340-355 crank horsepower. Mitsu was going after the Skyline GT-R, of course they underrated the car!
My mate had an R33 Skyline GT-R, we were neck and neck from a dead stop to over 240kph. From a rolling start, at any speed, my GTO TT would have half a car on him.
There is NO way in HELL a factory spec Civic Type R could win a race from a standing start to top speed against ANY GTO Twin Turbo / 3000GT VR4. Are people that stupid?! Anyone who disagrees has never been in or driven a well maintained GTO TT or VR4 - these cars are good for high 12s in the quarter mile off the show room floor, especially the J spec MR model.
Yes, the GTO TT / VR4 is a heavy, complicated car, and it handles like shite. I sold mine because it was no fun on B roads, and only fun in a straight line. Ironically, I sold it for the FK2 Type R I mentioned owning, and I had to get over how much slower the Type R was compared to the GTO TT. The difference is massive.
The man provided legitimate links. People should watch the links. The GTO TT and VR4 are supercars acceleration wise compared to the 4-cyl Type R. No chance for the Type R.