McLaren 675LT specs

Sorry I wait too time to see this car in the ring. Many people say that Ferrari doesnt care about the ring times and they are scared because their cars are slow but Mclaren??

the video many do not wish to see (18+) it's not as bad as kevin spacey jumping on the bed undoing his jeans

1min 43sec at Philip Island GP circuit

Surely that's an amateur time, otherwise it'd be slower than a 997 GT2?

Standing Mile - 185.1mph

1min 43sec at Philip Island GP circuit

yeah when are we going to change the curb weight on this page

But.... what about the tyres?

1:46 on Fuji Speedway (7:49).

2:20 at Ascari. Some traffic, cistomer driver.

4:20-6:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kCd1JIEBis

2:38 on Spa, amateur driver. Reports managing 2:36 previously.

So how come Cup 2s are 1.2s/minute faster than Cup+ and Trofeos are only 0.4s faster than Cup+ and faster than Corsa System and Trofeo Rs were only 0.9s/minute faster than Corsa Systems on Portimao (all same day tests). Shouldn't Cup 2s be as slow as Corsa Systems if Trofeo Rs are 1s/minute faster than them?

Why did Chevrolet fit Trofeo Rs on the Z28 and not even have them as an option tyre for the Z06 then? Everyone likes PR, so if they could have droped 1s/minute by going to Trofeo Rs as an option I'm sure they would have.

The 488 is slower than the LT because it's 200kg (or 15%) heavier. The obvious answer is the one staring you in the face.

Let's not forget you were one of the people who claimed the P1 couldn't lap the 'ring sub-7, and now the LT is faster than LP750-4 SV (6:59). Don't you and others look stupid.

Simple. Cuz cup2s are the better tire 99.99% of the time, on the ROAD at road legal speeds. Still don't get it

And don't Ferrari corvette and Porsche use michelins on their WEC cars?

Saxy - do the maths, these are all same day tests by respectable sources. Cup 2 1.2s/minute faster than Cup+.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilot-Sport-Cup-2-Launched.htm

Trofeo 0.4s/minute faster than Cup +. Sport Auto test.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2012-Sport-Auto-Track-Day-Tyre-Test.htm

So Cup 2 is ~0.8s/minute faster than non-R Trofeo and the non-R Trofeo is still faster than Corsa Systems.

Now at Portimao the Trofeo R on the P1 was 0.9s/minute faster than the Corsa Systems.

So in summary:

Cup 2 > 0.8s/min > Trofeo > Corsa System
Trofeo R > 0.9s/min > Corsa System

Good luck find 1s between the Trofeo R and Cup 2 in there.

Now Harris ran 1:56 at portimao with the 918 first time out and 1:53.98 the second time, with the same tyres. Now if he'd used Trofeo Rs the second time and ran 1:53.98, the internet would have been full of idiots claiming it was proof that Trofeo Rs are 1s/minute faster than Cup 2s, which is exactly what they did after his different day tyre test.

Why did Chevrolet put Trofeo Rs on the Z28 and then have Cup 2s as the option tyre for Z06s?

Can we add the Portimao lap. 1:54.7 - see centre console at 4:09.@FastestLaps.

LOL. Another one of those... "the faster lap time MUST make a car better" attitude. Trofeo R's are definitely more aggressive than any Michelins, but they also have no grip when their cold, or if it's raining.

For the 99.99% of the time these cars aren't being pushed to the limit, the less aggressive tires are better... like in the REAL world driving.

Manone - that's continually repeated garbage. The Cup 2 is 2s faster than Cup+ on a 2 minute lap (1 & 2) and Sport Auto only found the Trofeos 0.5s faster than the Cup+ on a 57s lap (3). These are all same day tests unlike the Harris test. So Cup 2s and Trofeos are roughly the same.
1. http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2012-Sport-Auto-Track-Day-Tyre-Test.htm
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkoaijiEKRg
3. http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilot-Sport-Cup-2-Launched.htm

Why doesn't Ferrari just use Trofeos instead of making excuses? They're not bound to Michelin like McLaren is to Pirelli.

488 does not come with cup2 tires. it comes with supersports. and yes cup2 are not quite as fast as trofeos r.
there are no "inferior" or "superior" tires globally. each choice may be better than another in a specific department. ferrari choices have been well known for decades. not one has ever come with trofeos r.

manone - there's no evidence that Trofeos are that much better than Cup 2s, all people are going on is a different day test, where the Cup 2 time for a GT3 was 5s slower than a 458s, which is definitely atypical, as you can see.
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/i6dlmtfhn0a7

Why would an Italian manufacturer be using inferior tyres made in France instead of faster Italian tyres?

the noticeable advantage over the 488 is basically due to the trofeos r tyres. it is interesting to still see some 2wd cars competitive at vairano, albeit at the cost of using trofeos r. that's a well known 4wd biased track, even because of the very slow speeds reachable.

Vairano in 1:10.101

laptime at le mans bugatti circuit: 1:44.04

1:10 at Vairano.
https://www.facebook.com/Quattroruote/videos/10155200508156258/

http://www.germancarforum.com/threads/next-quattroruote-3s-club-sometimes-they-come-back.56161/#post-807411

Just to note the stated curb weight is actually the dry weight. Curb weight is 1,328kg.

I dont know whether it was posted or not but here you guys have it :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYRpQ965bJA&feature=youtu.be

Nice movie. 675 LT is a monster.

In Vairano 1'10"893 and very crazy spedd in a 1KM...290Km/h

http://www.germancarforum.com/threads/next-quattroruote-3s-club-sometimes-they-come-back.56161/#post-809735

you do know that FIA now recognizes race car training directly through gaming consoles, and by earning a game racing license from the FIA, certifies you to be equivalent to having a REAL racing license in over 22 countries.

LMAO! but actually I don't have a game console at home, but I did study newtonian physics in University, and every thing I said in the previous post is truth and common sense.

you should try that some time.

The LT is properly fast around the race track. Sure the lack of electric motors makes it lose instant grunt but that's negligible on a race track. On track you want smooth delivery and not sudden.

The P1 gtr time seems impressive but when you factor the slicks it doesn't seem so great anymore. The radical with street legal tires in street legal trim posts just 2 seconds slower

says the boy with years of experience behind a monitor plugged into a gaming console

The LT is properly fast around the race track. Sure the lack of electric motors makes it lose instant grunt but that's negligible on a race track. On track you want smooth delivery and not sudden.

The P1 gtr time seems impressive but when you factor the slicks it doesn't seem so great anymore. The radical with street legal tires in street legal trim posts just 2 seconds slower

https://youtu.be/5WCav_2jF2s
laptime at Anglesey Coastal 1:12.8
P1 GTR did a 1:08.7

I added these 2 photos.