McLaren P1 specs

P1 vs 720S Drag Race:

Mclaren P1 0-330 kmh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTljDrejK80

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/porsche/918/2015/2015-mclaren-p1-vs-2015-porsche-918-spyder/

Mclaren p1 curb weight 1547 kg

@fakekillerfour - Compare apples to apples. The LP610-4 was on Trofeos for many of those laps and the 650S was on Corsas. So once you add 1.5s to all the LP610-4 times, the 650S wins everywhere.

The acceleration times are also very modest for the 650S. With a good launch the 650S can go much faster.

http://dragtimes.com/McLaren--650S-Drag-Racing.html
http://dragtimes.com/2015-McLaren-650S-Specs-28792.html

That is also a customer car, this is the fastest customer LP610.

http://dragtimes.com/Lamborghini--Huracan-Drag-Racing.html
http://dragtimes.com/Lamborghini-Huracan-Timeslip-28848.html

I wouldn't pay too much attention to times from a dig, they're variable. 60-150mph, far less variable. And 100-300kph makes it very obvious which is fastest.

@i love cars

do you have any refrences for the zonda revolucione? at what speed was the downforce measured? we cannot compare the numbers unless they are measured at the same speed

Huracan LP610-4 can win against the 650S Coupe in a standing start drag race.

Huracan LP610-4 beats the 650S Coupe in the comparison here:
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/7v59cpprko2e

But fastestlaps you are not being fair!!!! how can you compare twin turbo plus electric motor p1 against the N/A Huracan.....How can you compare the 1m plus dollars vs half a million car....How do you compare an orange car vs a white car..... So unfair.... is like comparing apples and oranges....... :P

Huracan doing very well up until 150 kph, when the P1 just takes off :D

I love that McLaren pays homage to the late and great F1 LeMans, With the same applications but of todays world, Its great to see companys do that, N quite rare too. Id love for Bmw to make a new CSL, And Mercedes make a new Evo II.

The P1 LM is 60 kg lighter than the P1 GTR, which in turn was around 50 kg lighter than the P1. Overall, this put the P1 LM at being around 110 kg lighter than the standard P1. This means that:

• P1 kerb weight = 1547 kg.
• P1 LM kerb weight: around 1437 kg.

Assuming more or less a 100 kg difference between ker weight and dry weight, the P1 LM should come out at around 1337 kg of dry weight.

In regard of downforce, P1 generates 600 kg at around 257 km/h; the P1 GTR increased said downforce value by a 10% mark, thus making 660 kg (pretty shitty level for a supposed track car if you ask me, since it's not even half of the maximum downforce that the Zonda Revolucion is capable to reach).
The P1 LM has 40% more downforce than the P1 GTR, which means that the LM should put out around 924 kg at the same speed.

The Mclaren P1 LM, still 1000ps, but 40% more downforce than the GTR. Lighter than the P1.

It was always a debate about whether the P1 would be faster on the track than the 5 one:1s. Well I think without doubt, this one would be :)

So there's a P1 GTR that's now road legal... It'll be a destroyer of worlds compared to other road legal cars on the track... but then it'll definitely not be as fast as the original P1 GTR.

Another P1 has bite the dust. crashed in china, no insurance =/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHIza81p2mo

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Bugatti Veyron Vs McLaren P1

all should together make a shared base handling model for their games

That is impossible, because each physics engine needs its own kind of physics models. General facts that define physics models (wheelbase, ride height etc) are universal and interchangable, but different games need different tweaks and arbitrary parametrs to make those models "feel" as close to the real thing as possible.

If these was a universal physics engine where you would just need to put in a bunch of real life measurements about any car and it would materialize as a realistic handling model for that car, then racing game physics would be, basically, solved and all that was left was to create better graphics, and all the games would essentially use the same physics.

This is not the case, unfortunately. Phyisics engines in racing games are ugly, un-symetrical, propraetary contraptions that don't work equally well accross all spectrum of car sizes/weights etc. Thats why a super light-weight racing cart will, for example, flip over in turns or accelerate too slowly in a physics engine meant for touring cars. Or a massive 6 tonne racing truck will occasionally glitch through the asphalt or spin violently after impact.

That is why rally games have rally physics engines which are not the same as used in Formula 1 games, for example.

literally every sim racing game i own has a severely different handling model for this car. That is project cars, grid autosport, assetto corsa, forza.

Here's my suggestion: these racing game creators, aka codemasters, wmd, ks, microsoft, etc. all should together make a shared base handling model for their games, and then let each developer modify it from there, like what they did with euphoria engine, unreal engine, path engine, etc.
seriously. go drive a p1 on grid autosport, then on project cars, and you can immediately see the differnce.
it would save them so much money, and i wouldn't have thrown my racing wheel at the telly EVERY time i go round the karusell in the p1 because of under/oversteer.
Just my thoughts!

Portimao Circuit

P1 - 1:51.78 (Trofeo R fast OEM option)
P1 - 1:53.57 (Corsa System bespoke, slow option)
918 - 1:53.98 (Cup 2 bespoke)
LaF - 1:54.25 (Corsa System bespoke)

Pretty terrible real life conditions, and with averaged results rather than fastest times being used. Nobody has released the fastest time for each car.

Note last 1/8th mile

LaF - 3.49s (108-142mph),918 - 3.50s (109-142mph),P1 - 3.51s (112-145mph) Fastest speeds at 1/8 and 1/4, slowest time for 1/8 to 1/4????

That's why there is no video of the actual run nor a timeslip.

wow, the 918 won by a huge margin. 0.25s for a 1/4 mile is like a decade. shows again in real life conditions, 918 beat the other 2 cars off the line.

He's the design boss at Porsche, go talk to him about it. My point is that they aren't standard MPSC2s anymore than the Z06's are.

...Why do you keep bringing up that 20% carp when you have no grounds other then what someone "Suggested"? Lke seriously. 20% is a HUGE difference no matter how you look at it, And we all know tht isnt true

They had to average the quarter times at Santa Pod so the 918 could win LOL. Ferrari slowest, surprise, surprise, lying gits. (e9FUAvxsrf0)

Saxy - P1 has fastest times on 2 out of 3 tracks where they both ran in the dry and beat the 918 by the largest margin at Anglesey.

Luque - Bespoke PZCS have no more reason to be identical than 2 modified cars.

Luque - Tests were ran on different days wrt GT3RS vs 918 and your argument would only mean the 918's tyres are stickier than the GT3 RS's tyres which are 20% stickier than GT3's tyres anyway. But there is also the question of CoG and wheel track which affects weight transfer during corner.

Edy - Those P1 turbos had to run on 91 octane in the Laguna Seca test in Cali. And it scuffed a corner at Silverstone losing a few tenths and still won.

Porsche 918 is by far more efficient on track than P1. Considering weight difference, less sticky tires... in the same conditions (day, weather, driver, track, etc.) has won 2 times over 3.That's a fact.

Uh Oh here comes that 20% argument again....

Man i LOVE listening to these debates on here, Like seriously THESE are the best times on here!!

Ops Sloser. The customer laferrari was on bespoke Pzero corsa at Silverstone. So why the owner of the P1 choose to switch form bespoke Corsa to Trofeo R ? Reason is simple. P1 is slower both than 918 and laferrari. Game changer ? LOL

Just reading 911 GT3RS supertest. Despite having the same amount of downforce and same tires, the 911 gt3 rs doesn't match the lateral acceleration of the 918 Spyder, both at Hockenheim than at the ring.Braking distance at 200 km/h ? 911 GT3RS 128,4 m / 918 spyder 122,8 m. So Sloser call now Andreas Preuninger to ask why, the 911 GT3RS weight also 200 kg less. LOL