Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series specs

458 vs SL 65 AMG (nice because here we have two races with two different 458s) :

and that torque... way too much of it.

It can't be so slow at Nurburgring with such a chassis just can't

The cars weight is its own enemy, shave at least another 300kg, install a manual box, probably make it a 4wd and I'm sure there will be noticeable effects

I think the non-black series looks better...

Do not ask me why.

Yeah, indeed. A manual gearbox would fit this V12 monster much more than automatic having more fun. And maybe then the speed limit would be taken off?

I would love it much more if it had a 6spd. manual gearbox!!

2014 SL75 AMG Black Series - 7300ccm V12 mit 740PS.

0-50 kph: 2,0 s
0-130 kph: 5,4 s
0-160 kph: 7,6 s
0-180 kph: 9,1 s
0-200 kph: 10,9 s

Source: AutoBild Sportscars - http://img142.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-4664/loc106/33616_test_sl_black_series_vs_techart_gt2_650_122_106lo.jpg

This car is very slow... all those looks, all that carbon fiber, all that power and torque, all that price, all that crapy ride, and no folding roof...

Sorry but it is slow as hell...

Despite being a little strangely built, I\'m kinda taken by this car. My guess is this car 1) needs a really good driver and 2) is highly dependant on chassis superiority on tracks.

How does this beat the Ford GT at HockenHeim by 2s, yet it Looses on the Top gear Track in the Damp by 1.1s?

sucha a strange car, it beats the KZ! at hockenheim, yet the KZ whoops it on a damp track at the Top Gear track? strange no?

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparisons/09q1/corvette_zr1_vs._sl65_amg_black_series_murcielago_lp640_viper_srt10-comparison_tests

o-160 7.7
1/4 mile 11,7

i little bit quicker

its not just its weight, 1, it has steel brakes, which carbon ceramics woulda ben a better choice,2, it has all that power, and not grippy eniff tyres, 3, its torque is too much, so all your gonna get i wheelspin.

Was just browing and thought with those amazing hp numbers how can this car be more than 20 seconds slower thatn the Nissan GTR at nurburgring????? Is the weight its own enemy.

Can not find a lap time on the auto motor und sport site.

The Sport Auto (7:51) time is here:

http://www.sportauto-online.de/rundenzeiten-supertests-1062778.html

The 7:36 came from http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073

They did have a link to MotorSport Und Auto that no longer works..... if as I suspect thats the same as SportAuto we'll change the time to 7:51. The original referance checked out at the time but its not impossible it was wrong..... does anyone have a link to the 7:51 time just in case?

and would it be possible to add 0-150mph??

i think it ws a claim, and i dont believe that top gear time for a minute, if you saw the video, he didnt really push it, i think he was being biased toward it for being much more expensive than a sl350.

I think Zora and woody raise an interesting point. Where did that 7:36 come from? All the fetishizing and projectile spooging over this car on this board has been besed on that time. Why no source?

The nordschleife time that SportAuto clocked was a 7:51. So where does the 7:36 time come from? BS?

If this car is not very fast around a track and unliveable in daily life as Clarkson so subtly pointed out, what's its purpose?

The Nordschleife time came from a test by SportAuto in May this year.

where is the reference for that Nordschleife time? I serieously doubt that entry is correct

that was actually my guess, 1:23. handling is much more important. the reason the sv can get more of its power down is because it can brake later, exit earlier, and with 4wd, also exit quite a bit smoother. i dont get how im saying its power is a bad thing and somehow worse than the svs output.

yeah i didnt think it would do a 1:23.0. i thought it would havd done a 1:19.3, but when the Stig did that lap, he didnt seem to push it as he could, but i dont know i gues you gotta have alot of things to count for. but o wouldnt care if this did a 2:03.6 id still want the hell out of one:

and if yall noticed somthig weird about that lap? almost like he wasnt trying to go fast, or wasnt even trying at all.

why would you say that about its power when the SV has the same output?

well this kinda power is completely useless unless youve got a really long straight to strech its legs. even at the fastest part of the track with the follow through and tire wall in its way i doubt it even got a couple mph faster top speed than the high downforce ferrari.