Pininfarina Battista top speed electronically limited to 217MPH or circa 350km/h. She'll hit that speed benchmarked, at 15.5 seconds!😮
Looks like Mate Rimac wants the 0-400 and and 0-400-0km/h action! That's ALL good! Ultimately sister projects!
Car type | Coupe |
Introduced | 2019 |
Origin country | Italy |
Views | 4k |
Submitted by | tyler |
Est. 0 - 100 kph | 2.0 s |
Est. 0 - 200 kph | 6.0 s |
Est. 0 - 300 kph | 12.0 s |
Top speed | 350 kph (217 mph) |
Engine type | 4 eletric motors |
Power | 1926 ps (1900 bhp / 1417 kw) |
Torque | 2299 Nm (1696 lb-ft) |
Transmission | single-speed gearbox, twin two-speed gearboxes |
Layout | middle engine, all wheel drive |
TypeF173 2m ago
Quote>"Pininfarina looks at acquisitions after return to profit. Pininfarina looks at acquisitions after cost cutting helps it return to profit."
https://europe.autonews.com/suppliers/pininfarina-looks-acquisitions-after-return-profit
TypeF173 2m ago
Quote>"The Geneva motor show will return in 2023 after three years of cancellations, its organisers have announced."
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/geneva-motor-show-return-2023-after-three-years
Quite fitting really that this news is being hosted in the Pininfarina Battista section. As that's where I first saw this incredibly impressive technologically sophisticated production car hypercar. In 2019.
And it also after 3 months marks a return to one of the most, individually for ME, most, if not THE most fascinating EV projects currently in final stages development. Absolutely NO contest, again for ME individually. For multitudes of reasons I need not state. It IS what it is!
TypeF173 5m ago
Pictures tell a million words~ Five Pininfarina Battista's including one Anniversario>
TypeF173 5m ago
The FOUR electric power modes in a Pininfarina Batista. Volkswagen Golf to Volkswagen Chiron! Ahahaha! JK, nobody have a fanny attack!
Calma> 402bhp and 870 lb ft of torque
Pura> 999bhp and 1,044 lb ft of torque
Energica> 1,341bhp and 1,393 lb ft of torque
Furiosa> 1,874bhp and 1,741 lb ft of torque
Very very interesting!
TypeF173 6m ago
So today (in between "chores" and "bores") I did something I've never done before, and certainly not for a new production hypercar. I read, that is after Google had done the work and translated them, Auto Motor und Sport and Quattroroute's initial driving impressions. This is on top of the English press, just about ALL of them!
The over riding feeling is this is an incredibly impressively engineered car (ofcourse with Rimac, but a collaborative effort) the dynamic capabilities and qualities are first class including the steering and braking.
There isn't much else to say, universally she's been recognised as being stunningly very beautiful but atleast, and at last almost in 2022 we've confirmation with general acceptance it's much more than purely skin deep.
She'll definitely perform, that's a given, but I've a feeling she'll hit much higher targets than people expect.
I was always excited by the project (and there are many) and her unveiling in 2019 where her entrance upstaged just about everything!
Forza Pininfarina! Bellissima!
TypeF173 6m ago
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/first-ride-2021-pininfarina-battista-review
Quote>"car weighs under 2200kg."
In line with the Rimac Nevera @ 2150KG.
TypeF173 6m ago
Quote>"That rear wing, which acts as an airbrake and deploys automatically at high speed can generate up to 500kg of downforce, “more than the weight of a fully grown polar bear” according to Pininfarina’s PRESS RELEASE."
LOL!, anyway 500KG of downforce is VERY respectable! ;)
TypeF173 6m ago
@Hoppelmoppel123 could we please add these manufacturer claims for the Pininfarina Battista please? They have to 250km/h already been verified by the Rimac Nevera!
https://www.automobili-pininfarina.com/battista
0-100= <2 seconds
0-200= <6 seconds
0-300= <12 seconds
Top speed= 350km/h *electronically limited
hostboy 7m ago
Estimated Acceleration Stats For Pininfarina Battista:
0-30 MPH: 0.9 sec
0-40 MPH: 1.3 sec
0-50 MPH: 1.6 sec
0-60 MPH: 1.9 sec (100 km/h: 2,0)
0-70 MPH: 2.3 sec
0-80 MPH: 2.7 sec
0-90 MPH: 3.2 sec
0-100 MPH: 3.6 sec
0-120 MPH: 4.5 sec (200 km/h: 4,7)
0-150 MPH: 6.2 sec (250 km/h: 6,6)
0-180 MPH: 8.4 sec (300 km/h: 9,0)
0-200 MPH: 10.5 sec (400 km/h: 23,9)
Top Speed: 256.6422 mph (413.0256 km/h)
Pininfarina claims a top speed of 217mph, but the Rimac sibling with almost the same power and the exact same torque is claimed to reach 258mph. Maybe the Pininfarina is either electronically limited or tire-limited to 217mph.
1.9+3.6/(1.9+3.6)x11 = 9.1sec standing quartermile time; normally I'd multiply by 12, but using that factor would show up as 9.75sec, which is far from accurate.
10.86121 m/s2, new world record for MY simulations for acceleration off the line!!! It's the equivalent to a 0.2sec 1-foot rollout. So, 9.1-0.2=8.9.
https://x-engineer.org/projects/vehicle-acceleration-performance-online-calculator/
Engine speed @ maximum torque [rpm]
0
Engine speed @ maximum power [rpm]
17000
Gear ratios [-] Gearbox
1
Differential
5.625 (= 5.50 front, 5.75 rear)
Wheel static radius [m]
0.370
Driveline efficiency [-]
1
Wheel (tire) friction coefficient [-]
2
Rear axle load coefficient [-]
2
Vehicle mass (curb) [kg]
2440
Driver mass [kg]
75
Aerodynamic drag coefficient [-]
0.25
Ambient air density [kg/m3]
1.202
Vehicle frontal area [m2]
1.93
Road slope [%]
0.00
Road load coefficient [-]
0.011 (pre-100km/h); 0.339 (post-100km/h)
Engine speed points (full load) [rpm]
0,5800,17000
Engine static torque points (full load) [Nm]
2300,2300,785
Simulation time [s]
60
This is the first time that I set the wheel friction coefficient and the rear axle coefficient both to 2 in a car simulation test; in previous cars I've mostly used the number 1.
Note: Tires used in this simulation were 295-35-21 made by Pirelli P-Zero
for sale on the America's Tire website https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/pirelli-p-zero/p/41164?forceSetStore=true&storeName=1047&gclid=CjwKCAiA1aiMBhAUEiwACw25MYDIHy-oJqeTYu9cYBvmmy6CG-jdEbUHkw3Glrka3d0BisBvzVocDhoCB8wQAvD_BwE
Drag coefficient rating should fall between 0.23 Cd (highest typical scale of "experimental") and 0.27 Cd (lowest typical scale of "sports"), so 0.25 Cd it is.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/Calculate%20HP%20For%20Speed.php
For this testing, I benchmarked the Maserati MC20 (1965mm wide + 1224mm high) and McLaren 720S (1930mm wide + 1194mm high) in terms of frontal area since both of them are physically and stylistically (in terms of size and shape) similar to the Pininfarina Battista. Averaging all of these numbers gives me a frontal area rating of 1.93 square meters. http://hpwizard.com/aerodynamics.html
Also, the vehicle's curb weight is 4400 lb. (1) https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a37419682/2022-pininfarina-battista-drive (2) https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/a37443982/the-pininfarina-battista-is-a-blast-from-the-future/
https://racingcalcs.com/psi-boost-for-horsepower-target-calculator/
Using 110% VE boost rating, 17000 max rpm, and a target bhp rating of 1874.008, its electric powertrain is the equivalent to 469.75 cubic inches. That's 7.7 liters in the postmodern world.
Unlike with the (mostly turbocharged) gas cars I've used, I didn't use peak power in the rpm section; instead I used the redline rpm for the electric hypercar/megacar. It is a huge torque monster as well! You may as well call it a spiritual successor to the Dodge Viper.
Change rpm setting from 17000 to 5800, and this is the horsepower rating the Pf.-B would make as a gas car: 640 horsepower. Adding 1,234 horsepower to it requires 28.4 psi (1.96 bar) of boost.
Tested "curb weight" includes downforce (2440kg). Pininfarina targets a "sub-2000kg" curb weight, but we don't know exact curb weight, but HPWizard estimates 1885kg. Unlike the Rimac Nevera, the Pininfarina Battista will be a downright track car; it will likely generate 555 kg of overall downforce.
TypeF173 7m ago
https://www.drive.com.au/news/pininfarina-battista-wins-design-award-at-villa-deste/
Quote>"The production-ready 2022 Pininfarina Battista pure-electric hypercar has won a coveted Design Award at the Concorso D’Eleganza Villa D’Este."
This is a very prestigious event. An impressive accolade.
Quote>"Pininfarina says the Battista produces 1417kW and 2300Nm, good for a 1.85-second 0-100km/h sprint and a 415km/h top speed."
Well the top speed might have changed? I'll DEFINITELY take that! LOL!
Quote>"A 1994 McLaren F1 won the event overall."
Something's never change! ;)
TypeF173 7m ago
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/pininfarina-battista-first-look-fully-electric-1900-hp-hypercar/
Quote>"Mar 4, 2019
It has 1,874 horsepower and 1,696 lb-ft of torque. It'll hit 60 mph in 1.9 seconds, 100 mph in 4.3 seconds, and 186 mph in 11.8 seconds. Quarter mile? Gone in 9.1 seconds. Top speed? An autobahn-busting 218 mph"
Sick of km/h metrics I actually found some MPH ones. Much better.
So the Rimac Nevera on prepared VHT glued ground got a 3.61 seconds. For the purposes of rollout they are factored in by Motortrend anyway.
So that's a 0.49 seconds saving at 100MPH or 4.3-0.49= 3.81 seconds.
Pininfarina claim 9.1 seconds for the 1/4 mile so 9.1-8.58 seconds minused for the Rimac Nevera. Or 0.52 seconds quicker.
This issue is what occurs next>
Rimac 0-186MPH= 9.3 seconds
Pininfarina 0-186= 11.8 seconds
If you factor in the quickest times and minus 0.52- 11.8 equating a similar acceleration rate you get 11.28 seconds.
Now, other's have telling me but I just put it aside, or did for the moment.
9.3 seconds I (and others below, please check) is nearly two seconds off Rimacs claim.
Pininfarina's figures however so calculated look more realistic and more achievable.
Originally Rimac had mostly EXACTLY the same acceleration figures as the Pininfarina Batista did. Even the 1/4 mile when it was known as the C2.
https://insideevs.com/news/338142/fully-charged-checks-out-stunning-rimac-c-two/
Source and figures above.
So what changed? Well my primary Source of metrics for the Rimac was the Carwow video and result. When Matt set a World Record, which still stands for non VHT surfaces. Anyway I've recently looked at depth at Brookes results and more importantly the video.
As it stands 0-300km/h isn't looking likely at all at 9.3 seconds as the specifications didn't change whatsoever? No extra power or lower weight.
So my revised figure based on CURRENT evidence is 11.28 seconds. This IS higher than previously stated but I've explained why.
It's still World Record smashing pace.
And for their figures Pininfarina should be applauded. Some other "manufacturers", well not.
;)
TypeF173 9m ago
https://www.motor1.com/news/500799/elektron-quasar-electric-hypercar/
Quote>"According to the Elektron, the Quasar hypercar is bound to produce a total system output of over 2,300 hp (1,715 kW), motivated by four electric motors, presumably one on each wheel. This will allow what the company calls Elektron Smart Torque Vectoring System (ESTV), which will probably come in handy at the track given the incredulous power produced. The whole electric powertrain will be pulling a projected total weight of 3,307 pounds (1,500 kilograms)."
So Germany now too (allegedly)? The Worlds gone nuts!
But LISTEN. Production plus delivery after extended testing. Then validation of these wild claims!