Dodge Viper ACR lap time at Sachsenring

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2016 Dodge Viper ACR completed a lap of Sachsenring in 1 minute and 30.9 seconds.

Track Sachsenring
Type flying start
Vehicle Dodge Viper ACR (Mk V)
Power / weight 654 ps / 1542 kg
Time 1:30.920
Peak speed 234 kph (145 mph)
Average speed 145 kph (90 mph)
Air temperature 5 C (41 F)
Submitted 10 years ago by tyler
Source Auto Bild Sportscars magazine (Germany)
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Reference:   Image of source Auto Bild Sportscars - 4/2016

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saxy  10y ago

I wonder if it was running in its full "road illegal" aero pack

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jeremyclarkson1  2y ago

I don't think so, this is a fairly tight handling track and it should easily beat the Z06 if that was the case yet its 4 tenths behind

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DodgeHEMI426  2y ago @jeremyclarkson1

Car was tested in really cold temperatures if I remember right (close to 0° C). Really not ideal conditions. Was an ACR Extreme though, I think it also had the extra splitter on it. Simple customer car from a dealership though, not a press car.

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jeremyclarkson1  2y ago @DodgeHEMI426

That makes sense, seeing the list of cars it’s slower then, I would’ve thought this would be faster then all of them

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DodgeHEMI426  2y ago @jeremyclarkson1

Yeah I thought the same when the test emerged, it should have easily beaten the C7 Z06 Z07 in better conditions (which was one of the fastest cars back then).

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jeremyclarkson1  2y ago @DodgeHEMI426

In a perfect warmer conditions it should do a 1:29/1:28 but you never know with Auto Bild SC and their Sachsenring laptimes lmao, an AMG GT R being faster then a 720S and Huracan Performante?! 😂

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jeremyclarkson1  1y ago @DodgeHEMI426

One thing I think is worth factoring in is that they’ve also lapped the Z06 at least 5 times here if not more whereas the ACR has been lapped here once, so maybe Naumann was able to extract the limits of the Z06 more easily

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DodgeHEMI426  1y ago @jeremyclarkson1

They got the 1:30.47 Min. lap time of the Z06 on the very first try and were only marginally faster in a later test.

And tbh I always thought AB: sportscars results made a lot of sense and seemed to be free of bias. They got significantly better performance out of non-German cars than for example "Sport Auto" did, which usually only seem to be able to produce great results with German cars.
The GT R has amazing grippy tires (same ones as the C7 Z06) I think that's why it's ahead of the 720S and Performante.

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jeremyclarkson1  1y ago @DodgeHEMI426

maybe, i still feel like the performante and 720s shouldnt be slower then the 911 gt2 rs on cup 2's though, for example at le mans the 720s did a 1:41.65, huracan 1:42.49, gt2 rs 1:44.35 on cup 2's.

also good point, i think the z06 1:30.26 has room for improvement as that was a manual and the auto is usually a bit faster

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DodgeHEMI426  1y ago @jeremyclarkson1

For the 720S it's important to know that especially in the beginning they were usually sent to tests with normal UHP-tires and not semi-slicks. There's a big difference between Trofeo R-equipped 720S and those that came on UHP-tires (P Zero?).

I think they tested several auto-Z06s as well and were never faster. I've seen the same phenomenon with ZL1 1LE Camaros, where the manual was also just as fast as the auto with a good driver.

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jeremyclarkson1  1y ago @DodgeHEMI426

nah the 2015 Z06 auto did a 1:30.47 and the 2015 Z06 Manual did a 1:30.85 but the 2017 Z06 Manual did a 1:30.26 and im pretty sure the 2017 model got some updates to make it better on track

also the 720s was mostly given p zero corsas, the same car autobild used sport auto france used

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