Laguna Seca (post 1988) lap times

A Taycan too slow? You need to be on your meds man. The thing is no Tesla handles anywhere as well as a Taycan and no Tesla is as well put together as a Taycan. The Tesla is great for range and acceleration but it’s not a car for those who like driving or any luxury experience

The model that still doesn't exist.

i wonder when the roadster will get released if it doesnt get another 2 year postponing

It's a myth, a legend. Just like the Tesla Roadster.

The only modifications made to the Model S Plaid that achieved 1:30.3 was that they installed a bucket seat in the driver's position, and used Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires. These are fairly small modifications that are pretty standard fare for anyone taking their vehicle to the track. They did not "remove the seats" and every other car in it's league is also using light bucket seats. Also, these are not "full slick" tires, these are tires you could reasonably use on the street (albeit, you'd probably want to make sure it's a dry, summer day, but still).

This makes the Model S Plaid faster than the McLaren P1, the 488, the 911 Turbo S, the 911 GT3 RS, the AMG GT R, and the Corvette C7 Z06. It absolutely embarrasses every BMW.

There are only two production cars in existence that beat the Model S Plaid on the Laguna Seca without also costing at least twice as much : the Porsche 911 GT2 RS and the Dodge Viper ACR Mk V. Neither of those cars have 4 doors and 4 seats with loads of interior room. Neither of those cars have 62 cubic feet of internal storage with the back seats folded. Neither of those cars have instant torque or regenerative braking. Neither of those cars are going to be extremely comfortable daily driver experiences for even the least skilled of drivers, with safety conveniences like lane-keep assist, electronic collision detection, or cruise control. Neither of those cars are going to get OTA software updates that will further improve their performance and convenience. And there are absolutely zero cars from other manufacturers on this list, or any other list, that have an infotainment experience that is even remotely comparable with any Tesla.

I wouldn't even consider myself part of the Tesla cult. The cars obviously have their flaws : severely overpriced FSD package that borders on "this is a borderline illegal scam", mediocre paint quality not worthy of a car of that cost, horrendously unacceptable QA control, spotty and inconsistent service accessibility outside of California, interior build quality that lacks in comparison with similarly priced luxury vehicles, and good luck getting the advertised range in the dead of winter. And, fun-wise, these are heavy cars. The Model S Plaid is heavier than a Ford-F150, and that reflects in it's driving experience, both in terms of it's suspension and it's lateral Gs. Don't get me wrong, the Model S is surprisingly tight given how heavy it is, but it's certainly no Miata or Porsche. Honestly, if I could have any car on this list, I'd take the 911 GT2 RS.

But based on your willingness to just straight up lie about the Model S Plaid, it's very clear you are part of the Tesla hate cult. Why? Why are you so irrationally passionate about vehicles I know for a fact you will literally never be rich enough to own? Why are you sitting here lying to make gas-powered hypercars seem better than a Tesla when I know for a fact you probably drive a beat-up 10 year old Ford Fiesta?

Tesla used Cup2R tyres not Cup2 so there you have an additional 1.5-2 sec improvement.

Are you implying that the other cars on that list are not using track-optimized tires just like the Model S Plaid?

No, just correcting the claim which wasn't accurate :)

Alright my bad.

Well, it does exist. It broke the 1:30 lap time. You can buy one this fall. Way cheaper than a McLaren.

Did I see a full cage in there? Additional weight but also stiffness.

They're literally already delivering it

It hasnt made it into production until now. Elon Musk canceled the Tesla Model S Plaid + because they were unable to produce the batteries. The Tesla Roadster was supposed to have these batteries too.

The Dodge Viper ACR Mk V was essentially same price as the Model S Plaid is, not twice as much like you stated.

he said that it DIDN'T cost twice as much.

Actually the GT2RS does cost twice as much.