Mendig AFB Circuit lap times

You gotta see Bejing Circuit laptimes lol

If you look at the track map (which is essentially a bunch of straights and 90-degree corners) and the fact that the runes take place from a standing start, things suddenly become more clear.
Due to these factors, cars with better straight-line acceleration are more successful at Mendig.
In addition, the semi-slick tyres and stiff suspension here on concrete slabs do not offer the same grip advantage as on a smooth asphalt surface.

Also an E63S faster than a 911 Carrera S?! That's like a Hellcat Redeye beating a 911 GT3!

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From 160mph on it's a lot quicker. I am talking about the Redeye and Jailbreak versions, not the standard Hellcat one. And I'm talking about the GT3, not the Turbo.

In Car & Driver's full instrumented test a narrow-body Hellcat Charger was just as quick to 150 mph (high-15 range) as a 992-gen Porsche GT3 or Carrera GTS.

I know, but do you know the 0-170 MPH time for the GT3?

19.1 sec for the GT3 https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:16ch8VmtiNEJ:https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a36164987/2022-porsche-911-gt3-drive/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=ms-android-verizon

VERSUS

19.2 sec for the Hellcat Charger https://imgur.com/a/MNm7S

Not to mention the 0-130 times are 11.1 for the GT3 and 11.7 for the Hellcat. The 130-170 time is much quicker for the Hellcat!!

Okay, but what about 0-170 MPH for the GT3?

I don't have any input on that, I doubt C/D tested it to 170 but the GT3 has a top speed of 198 with the PDK, 199 with the stick.

The Hellcats have a top speed of 204 mph in narrow form and between 196 and 203 in Widebody form

Sorry, I read your comment as 0-160

Okay.

Its alright

Well, E63 is much faster on the straight.

https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/uor1jjnfjljt

E63 being faster than Carrera S is like Redeye being faster than base cayman rather than GT3
Well if you mean 996 GT3 that's a different story

My god dude why do you hate the Hellcat so much? The Hellcat absolutely beats ANY Cayman except for the GT4 RS

Not on track at all

hellboat*

Hellcat > Cayman, 911, and ESPECIALLY Panamera

Retard

Cry bitch, this is the kind of girls you simp to that'll never get back to you inept soyboy

Time to approach a convo with and take out on a date REAL WOMEN

How's your shit tick tock shite going Eric Cartman who is a MASSIVE bimmer fanfairy?

dodgy hellboat is the worst handling car of all times

I am no Bmw or should i say, bullshit motor works fanboy

Compared to its midsize companions yes, full-size ones no

On the track: E63 and M5 > Hellcat, but S63 (and especially S65) and M760 < Hellcat. Previous gen S8 Plus is equal to Hellcat thanks to shorter wheelbase and virtually identical exterior bodywork and weight in spite of AWD.

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I don't think the original Hellcat is faster than the current M5, but it surely has an advantage over the previous one. The Hellcat Widebody can keep up with the current M550i xDrive in straight-line performance, and the Redeye Widebody is an M5 competitor.

I think Hellcats are overrated because they're made popular on social media by urban/inner city Hoodville clouts and Dodge is overtly concerned about competitors getting closer and closer to the horsepower game while not emphasizing on the chassis of its cars, even if the tires are indeed "good" enough for the track. They're also underrated because magazines refuse to compare them to a similarly powerful Cadillac or German sedan.

I'd rather have a Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing.

Your arguments will get you nowhere, hellboat is hellboat, whether it's a Dodge or a Cadillac.

Maybe 996 Carrera on track
So far Redeye is almost 6 seconds slower than normal GT4 on laguna seca

The GT and Turbo cars are actually more comparable to the Viper. The reason why Dodge hasn't made a track version of their Hellcat is because Dodge has simply decided to head toward a different direction than even Chevy and Ford, putting more focus on dragstrip performance than track performance. That to me is a good thing because it's like building a better version of you at the gym with self-discipline which relatively helps with getting the right girl with the right mindset. All this nonsense talk about track performance, girls really don't care about. Most girls feel more feminine when a guy takes them out for a joyride on a freeway, not on small twisty turn roads. Chevy Camaro/Corvette and Ford Mustang were possibly chick magnets 20-30 years ago, but that's not the case anymore.

While Dodge is the only one currently with a traditionalist and sigma muscle-car mindset, the Hellcat twins' chassis have roots dating back to 2004 (accounting for the then-new LX platform which is an evolution of the LH albeit with Mercedes parts added-on).

The Hellcats may not be faster than most cars with identical straight-line metrics on a road course, but they are faster than F430/575M and original Gallardo/Murcielago + even the SLR McLaren under ALL circumstances, the benchmark supercars of the 2000s.

No one cares about that car.

not true