Wtf are these laptimes??? The 911 turbo S is quicker than the gt3rs? The Pista is almost a whole second quicker than the Black Series?? (Well, that could be explained by Ferrari giving an improved car than what customers get but I thought Ferrari stopped that).Both porsches (GT3 RS and Turbo S) are quicker than a performanté??? And a 570s is over 1 and a ¼ seconds quicker than a Z06?? What's the deal?
Mendig AFB Circuit lap times
Rank | Vehicle | Driver | Time | PS / KG |
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1. | Ferrari 488 Pista | Christian Menzel | 1:41.00 | 720 / 1476 |
2. | AMG GT Black Series | Christian Menzel | 1:41.93 | 730 / 1637 |
3. | McLaren 720S | Christian Menzel | 1:42.10 | 720 / 1428 |
4. | Porsche 911 GT2 RS (991) | Christian Menzel | 1:42.29 | 700 / 1514 |
5. | Lamborghini Aventador SVJ | Christian Menzel | 1:43.72 | 770 / 1718 |
6. | Porsche 911 Turbo S (992) | Christian Menzel | 1:43.91 | 650 / 1650 |
7. | Porsche 911 GT3 RS | Christian Menzel | 1:43.96 | 520 / 1474 |
8. | Huracán Performante | Christian Menzel | 1:44.01 | 640 / 1556 |
9. | Mercedes-Benz AMG GT R Pro | Christian Menzel | 1:44.53 | 585 / 1637 |
10. | Dallara Stradale Spider | Christian Menzel | 1:44.64 | 406 / - |
11. | Aventador LP750-4 SV | Christian Menzel | 1:44.81 | 750 / 1699 |
12. | McLaren 570S | Christian Menzel | 1:45.04 | 570 / 1451 |
13. | Mercedes-Benz AMG GT R | Christian Menzel | 1:45.16 | 585 / 1635 |
14. | Radical RXC Turbo 500 | Christian Menzel | 1:45.42 | 537 / 1150 |
15. | Donkervoort D8 GTO | Christian Menzel | 1:46.28 | 340 / 695 |
16. | McLaren 650 S Spider | Christian Menzel | 1:46.35 | 650 / 1477 |
17. | Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C7) | Christian Menzel | 1:46.36 | 659 / 1611 |
18. | Audi R8 V10 Plus (Mk II) | Christian Menzel | 1:46.48 | 610 / 1637 |
19. | Mercedes-Benz AMG GT 63 S | Christian Menzel | 1:47.00 | 639 / 2112 |
20. | Porsche 911 GT3 (992) | Christian Menzel | 1:47.16 | 510 / 1455 |
21. | Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) | Christian Menzel | 1:47.30 | 500 / 1467 |
22. | Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 | Christian Menzel | 1:47.31 | 610 / 1547 |
23. | Porsche 911 GT3 | Christian Menzel | 1:48.18 | 500 / 1475 |
24. | Porsche 911 GT3 (991) | Christian Menzel | 1:48.28 | 476 / 1451 |
25. | BMW M8 Competition (G15) | Christian Menzel | 1:48.34 | 625 / 1893 |
26. | Porsche 911 R (991) | Christian Menzel | 1:48.60 | 500 / 1408 |
27. | Mercedes-Benz AMG GT C | Christian Menzel | 1:48.83 | 557 / 1684 |
28. | SLS AMG Black Series | Christian Menzel | 1:48.89 | 631 / 1639 |
29. | Porsche Taycan Turbo S | Christian Menzel | 1:48.94 | 760 / 2359 |
30. | Porsche 911 Carrera S (992) | Christian Menzel | 1:49.09 | 450 / 1553 |
31. | Nissan GT-R (R35 550 PS) | Christian Menzel | 1:49.10 | 550 / 1736 |
32. | Mercedes-Benz AMG GT S | Christian Menzel | 1:49.22 | 510 / 1656 |
33. | BMW M5 Competition (F90) | Christian Menzel | 1:49.50 | 626 / 1901 |
34. | Honda NSX (Mk II) | Christian Menzel | 1:49.97 | 581 / 1770 |
35. | Nissan GT-R (R35 570PS) | Christian Menzel | 1:49.97 | 570 / 1777 |
36. | E 63 AMG S 4Matic+ | Christian Menzel | 1:50.04 | 612 / 2055 |
37. | Porsche 911 Carrera S | Christian Menzel | 1:50.18 | 420 / 1489 |
38. | Aston Martin DBS Superleggera | Christian Menzel | 1:50.74 | 725 / 1849 |
39. | Ferrari 430 Scuderia | Christian Menzel | 1:50.78 | 510 / 1376 |
40. | Aston Martin Vantage (Mk II) | Christian Menzel | 1:50.82 | 510 / 1713 |
41. | BMW M4 Competition Coupe | Christian Menzel | 1:50.93 | 510 / 1725 |
42. | Porsche Cayman GT4 (718) | Christian Menzel | 1:50.98 | 420 / 1452 |
43. | Chevrolet Corvette Stingray | Christian Menzel | 1:51.08 | 502 / 1646 |
44. | AC Schnitzer M850i | Christian Menzel | 1:51.10 | - / - |
45. | Audi R8 V10 RWS (Mk II) | Christian Menzel | 1:51.18 | 540 / 1597 |
46. | RUF CTR2 Sport | Christian Menzel | 1:51.29 | 597 / 1364 |
47. | Wiesmann GT MF5 (Mk II) | Christian Menzel | 1:51.30 | 555 / 1405 |
48. | Porsche Cayman GT4 (981) | Christian Menzel | 1:51.71 | 385 / 1360 |
49. | Mercedes-Benz SL63 AMG | Christian Menzel | 1:51.85 | 585 / 1851 |
50. | KTM X-BOW RR | Christian Menzel | 1:51.96 | 365 / 810 |
51. | Jaguar F-Type SVR | Christian Menzel | 1:52.11 | 575 / 1820 |
52. | Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG S Coupe | Christian Menzel | 1:52.28 | 510 / 1811 |
53. | Porsche Panamera Turbo (Mk II) | Christian Menzel | 1:52.32 | 550 / 2085 |
54. | Audi RS6 Avant (C8) | Christian Menzel | 1:52.37 | 600 / 2188 |
55. | Radical SR3 SL | Christian Menzel | 1:52.41 | 304 / - |
56. | Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG | Christian Menzel | 1:52.51 | 457 / 1806 |
57. | Audi TT RS Coupe (Mk III) | Christian Menzel | 1:52.68 | 400 / 1483 |
58. | BMW M4 | Christian Menzel | 1:52.76 | 431 / 1596 |
59. | Alpina B5 Biturbo (G30) | Christian Menzel | 1:52.85 | 608 / 1940 |
60. | Chevrolet Corvette Stingray | Christian Menzel | 1:52.93 | 461 / 1566 |
61. | Alfa Romeo Giulia QV | Christian Menzel | 1:53.02 | 510 / 1709 |
62. | Alpina B3 (G20) | Christian Menzel | 1:53.04 | 468 / 1812 |
63. | BMW M5 (F10) | Christian Menzel | 1:53.39 | 560 / 1905 |
64. | Porsche 718 Cayman GTS | Christian Menzel | 1:53.51 | 365 / 1416 |
65. | Porsche 718 Boxster S | Christian Menzel | 1:53.62 | 350 / 1420 |
66. | Aston Martin V12 Vantage S | Christian Menzel | 1:53.70 | 573 / 1680 |
67. | Porsche Cayenne Coupé Turbo | Christian Menzel | 1:54.00 | 550 / 2258 |
68. | BMW M6 (F13) | Christian Menzel | 1:54.02 | 560 / 1894 |
69. | BMW M2 Competition (F87) | Christian Menzel | 1:54.10 | 410 / 1614 |
70. | Bentley Continental GT | Christian Menzel | 1:54.10 | 635 / 2273 |
71. | SLS AMG Coupe Electric Drive | Christian Menzel | 1:54.22 | 751 / 2095 |
72. | Cadillac ATS-V | Christian Menzel | 1:54.46 | 470 / 1733 |
73. | Aston Martin DB11 | Christian Menzel | 1:54.53 | 608 / 1902 |
74. | Toyota Supra (Mk V 340 PS) | Christian Menzel | 1:55.00 | 340 / 1524 |
75. | Alpine A110 S (Mk II) | Christian Menzel | 1:55.43 | 292 / 1135 |
76. | Chevrolet Camaro SS (Mk VI) | Christian Menzel | 1:56.00 | 453 / 1695 |
77. | VW Golf R (Mk VIII) | Christian Menzel | 1:56.59 | 320 / 1529 |
78. | Lexus RC F Track Edition | Christian Menzel | 1:56.73 | 480 / 1731 |
79. | Audi RS4 Avant (B9) | Christian Menzel | 1:56.75 | 450 / 1808 |
80. | Lexus RC F | Christian Menzel | 1:56.81 | 477 / 1814 |
81. | BMW M2 (F87) | Christian Menzel | 1:57.20 | 375 / 1563 |
82. | Renault Megane RS Trophy R | Christian Menzel | 1:57.34 | 300 / 1314 |
83. | Audi RS3 Sportback (8V) | Christian Menzel | 1:57.94 | 367 / 1564 |
84. | Renault Megane RS Trophy | Christian Menzel | 1:58.60 | 300 / 1477 |
85. | Alfa Romeo 4C | Christian Menzel | 1:58.76 | 240 / 1034 |
86. | Honda Civic Type R (FK8) | Christian Menzel | 1:59.00 | 320 / 1405 |
87. | BMW i8 | Christian Menzel | 1:59.10 | 374 / 1490 |
88. | VW Golf GTI TCR | Christian Menzel | 1:59.20 | 290 / 1436 |
89. | BMW M240i | Christian Menzel | 1:59.50 | 340 / 1578 |
90. | Lexus GS F | Christian Menzel | 1:59.54 | 477 / 1850 |
91. | Audi RS Q3 | Christian Menzel | 1:59.59 | 400 / 1746 |
92. | BMW M135i xDrive (F40) | Christian Menzel | 1:59.81 | 306 / 1537 |
93. | Ford Focus RS | Christian Menzel | 1:59.83 | 350 / 1549 |
94. | BMW M135i (F20) | Christian Menzel | 1:59.87 | 320 / 1490 |
95. | Lexus LC 500 | Christian Menzel | 1:59.90 | 477 / 1974 |
96. | Toyota GR Yaris (Mk IV) | Christian Menzel | 2:00.58 | 272 / 1292 |
97. | Seat Leon Cupra 280 (Mk III) | Christian Menzel | 2:01.31 | 280 / 1336 |
98. | Mercedes - AMG A35 4Matic | Christian Menzel | 2:01.40 | 306 / 1601 |
99. | VW Golf R (Mk VII) | Christian Menzel | 2:02.50 | 300 / 1470 |
100. | Kia Stinger GT | Christian Menzel | 2:02.76 | 370 / 1850 |
101. | Audi S3 (8V facelift) | Christian Menzel | 2:03.35 | 310 / 1502 |
102. | Peugeot 308 GTi 270 (T9) | Christian Menzel | 2:03.40 | 270 / 1301 |
103. | Renault Megane RS (MK IV) | Christian Menzel | 2:03.74 | 280 / 1477 |
104. | Audi S6 Avant TDI (C8) | Christian Menzel | 2:04.35 | 349 / 2081 |
105. | Volvo V60 T8 Polestar (Mk II) | Christian Menzel | 2:05.12 | 405 / 2040 |
106. | Hyundai i20 N (BC3) | Christian Menzel | 2:05.37 | 204 / 1238 |
107. | Hyundai i30 N (Mk III) | Christian Menzel | 2:05.63 | 250 / 1423 |
108. | Ford Fiesta ST (Mk VII) | Christian Menzel | 2:05.69 | 200 / 1211 |
109. | Ford RS200 | Christian Menzel | 2:07.17 | 250 / 1180 |
110. | Audi S1 | Christian Menzel | 2:07.87 | 235 / 1363 |
111. | VW Polo GTI (Mk VI) | Christian Menzel | 2:08.80 | 200 / 1297 |
112. | Renault Megane GT (Mk IV) | Christian Menzel | 2:10.16 | 205 / 1433 |
113. | Ford Fiesta ST200 | Christian Menzel | 2:10.29 | 200 / 1187 |
114. | Audi A1 40 TFSI (Mk II) | Christian Menzel | 2:10.60 | 200 / 1307 |
115. | 190E 2.5-16V Evo II | Christian Menzel | 2:10.82 | 235 / 1388 |
116. | Peugeot 208 GTI (208 PS) | Christian Menzel | 2:11.73 | 208 / 1299 |
117. | Opel Adam S | Christian Menzel | 2:15.81 | 152 / 1164 |
118. | VW Golf GTI 1.8 (Mk I) | Christian Menzel | 2:18.40 | 112 / 870 |

Mendig AFB Circuit
Mendig AFB Circuit is a racing venue in Germany with 119 lap times.This page represents the 4.2 kilometer (2.6 mile) configuration of this track.
Mendig AFB Circuit is a moderately fast track, with overall average speed of 133 kph (83 mph).
Country | Germany |
Track length | 4.24 km / 2.63 miles |
Track record | 1:41.0 (488 Pista) |
Front-drive record | 1:57.3 (Megane RS Trop..) |
4-door sedan record | 1:47.0 (AMG GT 63 S) |
Convertible record | 1:53.6 (718 Boxster S) |
Top speed | 283 kph (176 mph) (McLaren 720S) |




196ss 3d ago
If you look at the track map (which is essentially a bunch of straights and 90-degree corners) and the fact that the runes take place from a standing start, things suddenly become more clear.
Due to these factors, cars with better straight-line acceleration are more successful at Mendig.
In addition, the semi-slick tyres and stiff suspension here on concrete slabs do not offer the same grip advantage as on a smooth asphalt surface.


Z31Turbo84 3d ago @hostboy
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hostboy 3d ago @Z31Turbo84
From 160mph on it's a lot quicker. I am talking about the Redeye and Jailbreak versions, not the standard Hellcat one. And I'm talking about the GT3, not the Turbo.
In Car & Driver's full instrumented test a narrow-body Hellcat Charger was just as quick to 150 mph (high-15 range) as a 992-gen Porsche GT3 or Carrera GTS.


hostboy 3d ago @Z31Turbo84
VERSUS
19.2 sec for the Hellcat Charger https://imgur.com/a/MNm7S
Not to mention the 0-130 times are 11.1 for the GT3 and 11.7 for the Hellcat. The 130-170 time is much quicker for the Hellcat!!





196ss 3d ago @hostboy
Well, E63 is much faster on the straight.

Lambolover 3d ago @hostboy
E63 being faster than Carrera S is like Redeye being faster than base cayman rather than GT3
Well if you mean 996 GT3 that's a different story





hostboy 3d ago @Cauf40f50
Compared to its midsize companions yes, full-size ones no
On the track: E63 and M5 > Hellcat, but S63 (and especially S65) and M760 < Hellcat. Previous gen S8 Plus is equal to Hellcat thanks to shorter wheelbase and virtually identical exterior bodywork and weight in spite of AWD.


hostboy 3d ago @Henkka715
I don't think the original Hellcat is faster than the current M5, but it surely has an advantage over the previous one. The Hellcat Widebody can keep up with the current M550i xDrive in straight-line performance, and the Redeye Widebody is an M5 competitor.
I think Hellcats are overrated because they're made popular on social media by urban/inner city Hoodville clouts and Dodge is overtly concerned about competitors getting closer and closer to the horsepower game while not emphasizing on the chassis of its cars, even if the tires are indeed "good" enough for the track. They're also underrated because magazines refuse to compare them to a similarly powerful Cadillac or German sedan.
I'd rather have a Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing.

Yumi Nu 3d ago @hostboy
Your arguments will get you nowhere, hellboat is hellboat, whether it's a Dodge or a Cadillac.

Lambolover 3d ago @hostboy
Maybe 996 Carrera on track
So far Redeye is almost 6 seconds slower than normal GT4 on laguna seca

hostboy 3d ago @Lambolover
The GT and Turbo cars are actually more comparable to the Viper. The reason why Dodge hasn't made a track version of their Hellcat is because Dodge has simply decided to head toward a different direction than even Chevy and Ford, putting more focus on dragstrip performance than track performance. That to me is a good thing because it's like building a better version of you at the gym with self-discipline which relatively helps with getting the right girl with the right mindset. All this nonsense talk about track performance, girls really don't care about. Most girls feel more feminine when a guy takes them out for a joyride on a freeway, not on small twisty turn roads. Chevy Camaro/Corvette and Ford Mustang were possibly chick magnets 20-30 years ago, but that's not the case anymore.
While Dodge is the only one currently with a traditionalist and sigma muscle-car mindset, the Hellcat twins' chassis have roots dating back to 2004 (accounting for the then-new LX platform which is an evolution of the LH albeit with Mercedes parts added-on).
The Hellcats may not be faster than most cars with identical straight-line metrics on a road course, but they are faster than F430/575M and original Gallardo/Murcielago + even the SLR McLaren under ALL circumstances, the benchmark supercars of the 2000s.

Cobra 2m ago
Hallo Christian, immer wieder spannend wie du durch die Sendung führst und die Autos rannimmst. Kennst du die Weineck Cobra aus Bad Gandersheim? Mich würde Wunder nehmen wie dieses Monster in der Version mit mindestens 10.2 Litern und 1200 PS auf dem Track performt. Hast du auch Lust auf einen Ritt auf der Kanonenkugel?


Tony 10m ago
Hoi Christian...hätte da einen m240i xdrive mit gemachter Software, Downpipe und Sportkatelisator mit einer Leistung von ca. 480Ps und 640Nm und einem Gewicht von gut 1600kg


ShaneW 1y ago
This should be added. Why has this not been added?
Lexus GSF Mendig AFB (Christian Menzel) - 1:59.5

LaFournier 1y ago
Lexus GSF lap time around Mendig AFB (Christian Menzel) - 1:59.5

Michael 1y ago


Teodor Karamichev 1y ago
@fastestlaps There are more than 150 lap times on this circuit, make sure you add as many as possible


Andreas 2y ago
Liebes Fast Lap Team. Die Alfa Giulia GTA wäre es auch mal Wert über dern Kurs zu jagen. Als legendären Rennwagen wäre auch ein Alfa 155 in der DTM/ITC auch sehr interessant. Da hätte der Christian sicher auch Bock drauf.
Grüsse


Bea 2y ago
Ich vermisse den Mini John Cooper Works R56... wär interessant, wo er sich einreihen würde...



Billy 2y ago
Anyone saw the episode where Porsche 911 GT3 Carrera Cup was tested? It really obliterated everything! I cannot find video anywhere though. I watched it on AMS TV.



sroser 3y ago
720S - 1:42.1
GT2 RS 1:42.26
More times:
https://www.germancarforum.com/threads/chevrolet-corvette.48042/page-22#post-934916

lentigos 4y ago
some lap times:
- Komo-Tec Ariel Atom 1:42.8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaKjMCH1a_c
- Lamborghini Aventador Superveloce 1:44.8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IkULWKdQzA
- McLaren 570S 1:45.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj72hgS4lY8
- Mercedes AMG GT-R 1:45.1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Bky-MsWNs
- Audi R8 V10 Plus 1:46.5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvwDoOQCAOU
- Lamborghini Huracan Coupe 1:47.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x7tadrBBkE
- Porsche 911 GT3 RS 1:47.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBecmwcgbhE

jeno 5y ago
Anybody know something about if there is the track mendig builded to assetto corsa , but i mean the christian menzel fastlap track which is on the airfield not the one just passing the airfield.
There will be good to have also the laptimes for that track for some of cars wich is made already in assetto corsa to have a good testrun for comparsion.

John 5y ago
18.1 Mercedes-AMG C63 S – 01:52:51 min BMW M4 – 01:52:76 min Corvette C7 – 01:52:93 min


