https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-reviews/14460/maserati-granturismo-vs-jaguar-xkr-s
So Auto Express says the GranTurismo was 3 seconds quicker then the XKR S on Blyton Park, but won't actually say what the times are...
Car type | Coupe |
Curb weight | 1855 kg (4090 lbs) |
Dimensions | 4.93 m (194 in) long, 1.92 m (75 in) wide, 1.34 m (53 in) high |
Wheelbase | 2.94 m (116 in) |
Introduced | 2011 |
Origin country | Italy |
Views | 56.5k |
0 - 40 kph | 1.9 s |
0 - 80 kph | 3.8 s |
0 - 100 kph | 4.5 s |
0 - 160 kph | 10.0 s |
0 - 180 kph | 12.5 s |
0 - 200 kph | 15.3 s |
1000 m | 22.6 s @ 250.0 kph |
100 - 200 kph | 9.4 s |
Est. 0 - 60 mph | 4.3 s |
0 - 100 mph | 10.0 s |
Est. 1/8 mile | 8.9 s @ 96.3 mph |
1/4 mile | 12.6 s |
Top speed | 305 kph (190 mph) |
Est. max acceleration | 0.68 g (7 m/s²) |
Engine type | V8 |
Displacement | 4.7 l (287 ci) |
Power | 450 ps (444 bhp / 331 kw) @ 7000 rpm |
Torque | 510 Nm (376 lb-ft) @ 4750 rpm |
Power / liter | 96 ps (94 hp) |
Power / weight | 243 ps (239 bhp) / t |
Torque / weight | 275 Nm (203 lb-ft) / t |
Transmission | 6 speed automatic |
Layout | front engine, rear wheel drive |
jeremyclarkson1 4m ago
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-reviews/14460/maserati-granturismo-vs-jaguar-xkr-s
So Auto Express says the GranTurismo was 3 seconds quicker then the XKR S on Blyton Park, but won't actually say what the times are...
Rotorblade 5y ago
This car is so heavy, it does’t have too good power/weight ratio but it manages amazing laptimes
man1 14y ago
top gear's time is amazing, considering the weight to power ratio. almost the same time as a ferrari f430...
Ala71 15y ago
I actually have cars on both sides of the ocean. I got a Granturismo S in 2008 to drive the Stelvio pass, I loved it and I kept it as a summer car... This year it will be replaced by the MC.
In the US I have tracked the F430 and tge Gransport for fun, both with modifications all around for better handling, braking, noise and power :-)
But since they are also road cars, I've used them on long trips out west, these supercars today are so reliable and comfortable that you can really do thousands of miles far out in the wild, no probs.
About Alfa: in the US the 8C sold out in a week, a friend of mine in Hollywood struggled to find one even if he's a famous collector... The Alfa brand is still cherished by enthusiasts (Alfa club events have huge turnouts!) but nobody would buy the current little fwd Fiat clones. Alfa must be a BMW competitor to justify its very existence as a viable business model. It is pointless to sell Nissan and Toyota competitors with an Alfa badge, customers in these segments dont care about alfa's brand values and the economies of scale of the mass manufacturers will kill it on the market.
The 4c is a clever idea but we really need a fresh RWD 4-seater coupe and a RWD sports sedan with Alfa-built 6 cylinder engines, a convertible and a bmw 5-series competitor large sports sedan... But I'm dreaming. Marchionne is killing the brand by starvation. Very sad.
man1 15y ago
First step the Alfa 4C that will be RWD
i remember how big of a relief was reading about that news. for years, in any car forum you could hear alfa fans calling for a car like that to bear the alfa logo. sometimes one tends to think that even a chimp would be able to plan the future of the alfa brand better... as long as it is able to read car forums.
man1 15y ago
@ala71: interesting. did you ship the granturismo to US for your trip?
or maybe you bought it there and then shipped it to italy.
i have visited most of the places you mendioned by motorhome. on a granturismo s it must have been quite a different experience...:)
al71 15y ago
Auburn Hills... Chrysler... You're Italian... hmmmm... do you work for Fiat Group?
If you do, please tell your bosses to get their head out of the sand and do something to save Alfa Romeo... it's as good as dead, it's not a brand meant to fight against Toyota and Peugeot, it should have top-notch RWD cars to compete against BMW. Do something!
Luque 15y ago
Sorry, my previous post was for Luque as well as for man1. Great to talk to all of you guys.
Thank you too Ala71, You make me getting urge to visit seriously USA
Unfortunately my visit in US have been always for working reason and in Michigan, our office was in Troy and actually in Auburn Hills. Time to plan a trip with Wife and kid. All the best
ala71 15y ago
Sorry, my previous post was for Luque as well as for man1.
Great to talk to all of you guys.
ala71 15y ago
@ man1:
I am Italian-American and I love my family's old country.
I love going on vacation to Italy and that's where we keep the Granturismo S. I love Italian cars and I have been enjoying Maseratis and Ferraris on both sides of the ocean for a few years now. With my modified Gransport (470 HP with free flow exhaust, engine tuning and modified gearbox sw) I have been enjoying track days as well as long road trips from Chicago to California. Last year we drove 3500 miles in one month going through all the great national parks (Arches, Canyonlands, Capitol Reef, Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Zion, Death valley...), a huge, amazing trip with the Maserati a faithful companion across deserts and high mountains. The car performed beautifully. We carried all our hiking gear and tons of stuff for a month's vacation. And we had our small child in the back seat.
This trip was just as amazing as any trip to Tuscany. Only the food and wine were better in Tuscany!
All the people who speak rubbish of Italian cars really do not have a clue. I have put many, many miles on Ferraris and Maseratis and enjoyed every one of them. Only my old F355 gave me some serious technical problems. All the others (Ghibli, Gransport, Granturismo S, F430, F550) have been absolutely perfect and a joy to own and drive.
I love Italy and Italian cars. Keep up the great work!
Luque 15y ago
Oh Ala71,
I had one of the best week-end of my life three weeks ago in Tuscany near Mugello.
Three friends, three fantastic cars (360 Modena, 996 Carrera, Alfa 147 GTA) no family, a wonderful Agriturismo to stay (10 min from Mugello circuit)
http://www.agriturismopoggiodisotto.com/
with a stunning restaurant in it (La casa di caccia)
Wonderful ‘Fiorentina’ steaks, Ravioli di scamorza con scaglie di tartufo and ….
Drive, drive and drive ….. all old Mugello stradale circuit (Passo della futa, Passo della Raticosa) changing cars live EVO testers do.
My country has a lot of contradictions but, sometimes, I thanks God to live in Italy.
Ala71 15y ago
Man1:
You hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what Italian cars are about! Last year after a tour of Tuscany in the Granturismo S the car resembled a wine shop... We had filled it with boxes of vintage Brunello, San Gimignano Docg, Vernaccia... :-)
The experience of an Italian engine screaming at high revs on the rolling hills of Tuscany is one of life's defining experiences. Somehow it doesn't work in an Audi or in a Nissan gtr...
man1 15y ago
@ala71: as far as i understand, you already had the experience of owning a maserati granturismo, thus you know what expect from the mc stradale. if you ordered it i assume that you like its interior layout compared to the competitors. italian high end brands tend to preserve that typical artigianal flavour often found in fashion manufacturing for which that country is worldwide famous. it is a matter of taste and we are sharing the same one; it is hopeless to explain that to those poor italians who prefer german plastic over italian finely stitched leather, just because it is italian.
as i have already said i think the mc stradale is truly a connoisseur car, very far from the cold numbers of a track day auto, yet with similar performances if asked for, and much more articulated in its nuances. a mix of voluptuous feelings yielding a sheer driving pleasure, better tasted with a 2002 "terre brune" of "cantina di santadi" if i may suggest... :-)
man1 15y ago
@mike b: i totally agree with your scud's figures. i had predicted (as much as of a speculation it might be of course) a 3.44-3.45 in that heat and a below 3.43 figure in porsche-like weather conditions. not much really, but if you add up the couple of seconds moccia lost on the track and the weather conditions, you end up with about 4 secs of penalization, which an italian magazine must not allow to an italian car.
i am totally stunned that quattroruote drove even somewhat faster (0.3 sec only) an audi rs5 than a mc stradale, when the audi rs5 is roughly on par with a granturismo s:
http://www.fastestlaps.com/comparisons/maserati_granturismo_s-vs-audi_rs_5.html
the mc stradale's time is very good
but rs5's one is simply unbeliavable.
i am getting more and more convinced that vairano has become an obsolete track favouring all wheel drive cars. in italy there are plenty of exceptionally complete tracks such as the recent 6kms nardo handling circuit, monza, balocco itself. i wonder why they keep insisting using that instead.
Mike B 15y ago
@man1
I've made and average excluding the Balocco and autocar times (because in there the LP560-4 was on PZero Rosso) and effectivly the Scuderia is around 1.1% faster on track, while in the Balocco time the difference is only 0.4%. A more reallistic time would be 2:45.2 and both would drop if Auto had tested them in better conditions, I'm with you on that, I only said that the LP560-4 was faster on a straight line.
ala71 15y ago
I have read Auto's test of the MC Stradale and I am appalled that they dismissed its acceleration as "average". They forgot to mention that the Maserati does not have a launch control system, which is the ONLY thing that enables the latest spree of sub-4 second 0-100 Km/h times that we've seen everywhere.
Considering how the launch control completely wrecks a transmission, I consider it just a gimmick for journalists. I would never use it on my own car!
Looking at the acceleration of the MC Stradale, I see that its 100-160 Km/h time is only 7.9s, which is just as fast as the Lambo Gallardo tested by Auto in January 2004... and the 1/4 mile and Km times are identical... so, to say that the Maserati has "mediocre" acceleration is extremely biased.
Also, I notice the continuous obsession with Porsche and Audi of Italian magazines. Has anyone really ever been inside a Porsche 911? The amount of cheap plastic is appalling! (ok, the 997 is a bit better, but the 996 was disgraceful). And Audi is no better - after touching all the cheap hard plastics in an R8 I walked away and ordered the MC Stradale the next day. Yet all I read are gushing reviews about "Porsche and Audi build quality". Bulls@t.
man1 15y ago
@mafalda: i quote everything and don't need to add a single word, except that few years back they reported the whole comparison of d-range cars (alfaromeo 159, bmw 3series..) of 10 different makers made by auto motor und sport. 4 of them were germans and guess who took the first 4 places of the final ranking? quattroruote obviously deemed that garbage to be worth of publication.
i have always found quattroruote to be by far the most balanced italian magazine, which is pretty sad indeed. but they look like, as many italians do, feeling deeply embarassed when on the top of their list there is an italian car...
@mike b: i will check those numbers out and if they are confirmed by other journals. in any case the scud is noticable lighter, breaks better, has a much better transmission and in its cst-off setting is more track focused than the lamborghini. not surprising the scud has been consistently faster than the lambo in all the tracks except top gear's. but of that test there is a vid around and you can check by yourself the gear change timings in the start and easily realize they probably lost almost a second just in the launch...