McLaren MP4-12C lap time at Top Gear Track

I say it's correct.

Very Good Lap Time

the car the stig did the lap in is the production car.
the car jc drove was the pre production car that still needed a few tweeks, the same car was drove by tiff needell and jason plato at the top gear track .

No. All actual MP4s are fully assembled in prototype area. Supplier production isn't started yet so parts they supplied are prototypes too.

@ Guest
the car the stig did the lap in is the production car.
the car jc drove was the pre production car that still needed a few tweeks, the same car was drove by tiff needell and jason plato at the top gear track

@ wtffastest laps?
wow a rant over 'the' lmao, if the mods are that bad why are you on the site then?

i added this laptime literally seconds after clarkson said it then it gets deleted and re added wtf! oh and btw its The Stig not stig you idiot. Why bother adding things they only get changed but the noob mods like that prick fastest laps its the worst mod that prick.

why is it so hard for people to believe that a car that weights less has more power and torque cannot get round a track faster than a ferrari?

because they would like to have ferrari's babies.

why is it so hard for people to believe that a car that weights less has more power and torque cannot get round a track faster than a ferrari?

MP4 Prototypes have lower torque at wheels in comparison to the 458 due longer gear ratios.

Not than a Ferrari, than a Gumpert Apollo, than Veyron SS, than the CCX,etc

why is it so hard for people to believe that a car that weights less has more power and torque cannot get round a track faster than a ferrari?

the only real way to convince anyone will be the ring time,a time which they nearly had,bar rain in the last minute of the lap,but they were VERY happy with that time and will be going back soon with a customer spec car,you may dispute this but this was relayed to me infront of 15+ guys all spending £200k plus,not a group of people you would want to bullshit too face to face.
Its going to be an interesting summer were alot of people will have to eat there words,after all im 1/2 a hat to the good,just 1 lap to go

Hey guys,i told you what the approx time would be months ago,as for the 1:14 and other times,absolute bullshit posted by 1 guy by the name of TAG,i did my best to discredit him at the time,and not many mclaren customers gave him much credance,but shows you if you post something it can become gospel pretty quickly ,but 1 guy i mean!!! and the dealership knew nothing about it.
As for the tg lap it was done on corsa,s by the stig,not the mac test driver and with the current spec customer car,the one i have been promised to get in 4 weeks.
As for being developed at dunsfold fair play .but anyone can test their,can you say the same about fiorano,i think not???
JC said this was not the car he had tested a few months ago as the throttle response,gear change feel and louder sound were different,again all true,as confirmed today to me,as they have listened to all the journo compliants and have been able to alter these before any customer cars have been delivered.The first customer cars will be last week of this month and they will be of the dunsfold spec car,that is if you spec corsa,s

,but anyone can test their,can you say the same about fiorano,i think not??

@fastestlaps

What do you mean by adjustable? I wouldnt consider a car to be factory if they manipulate the camber, toe, ect.

GM made it a point to say in the ZR1 ring video that all the specs are factory. I know them saying that isnt proof of anything but at least they stated the cars suspension was at its factory settings. I think many times car makers adjust the suspension to non-factory spec.

@Mafalda Both cases (Ferrari and McLaren) are equal. As long as they only adjust things that are "adjustable" and not modify the car (or it's software), I don't see a problem with that.

Maybe MP4-12 has an inherent advantage on a track like TG testtrack, since it was developed there. The driver for sure was a McLaren test driver who knew from experience how to drive that car around that particular track.

@ Fastestlaps
"This car was developed at Top Gear track so they for sure knew ****how to set it up**** to yield maximum performance. "

hot to set it up means a setup ad hoc for this track
if the supercar comes from Woking = optimized
if the supercar comes from Maranello = Manipulated

This car was developed at Top Gear track so they for sure knew how to set it up to yield maximum performance.

I would belive this time if there were no other tests, by CAR, EVO magazine, and Fifth Gear. In all three the result was that 458 was faster. They should show us nurburgring time.... I want to win my 5 cents :D

How can a car be slow when its development was based on TG track.

No Paulo, they claimed that the standard car with PZeros could do 1:14.1, the one with lightweight carbon fiber parts and Corsas could do 1:12.9 and a "GTR" version could do 1:09,

The car that set this laptime had the lightweight package and Corsas, maybe what the dealership claimed were flying starts.

early on this year a dealership claimed that the corsa version (still in development) laped 1:14.1 so it is possible to do that lap time you ferrari 458 and bugatti lovers I think that you don't believe it just because you can't acept the thruth and by the way TOP GEAR is best and greatest show ever