Peugeot RCZ R lap time at Hockenheim Short

They should, I think Peugeots would sell good over there. But still, Given it would prolly be around the $38,000 price, Would you honestly take this over other cars in that range?..

Pronunciation of the name would be interesting lol

Damn this thing is quick! I wish they sold these here in the US. I'd be tempted.... :)

I don't want to say overall practicality makes a better car, It can be a list of things, But I think we all have to put in "Our Likes" when regarding which is better or more, A car is a toll I agree, but also much more then that, But as to why I would prefer a Cayman S over a M135i? Theres loads of reasons, and a lot being worse then a M135.

I see your point. It's the practicalities that makes "more of a car". I tend to agree. Why in the world would you buy a Cayman S whem for less money you can get similarly performing M135i or A45 AMG that are more practical? A car is a tool anyway.

You get more space, More performance in every way, "Can seat more" Better drivetrain, better engine, more fun, more reliable, easier to live with, easier to maintain, better in every whether condition, Snow, dirt, Mud, rain etc, You could count in better Mpg if you like, Easier to fix, better looking(Subjective)(Pretty much everything is though)

Quite a few things that can make a car "More" of a car.

On what merits do you judge a car is "more of a car" than the RCZ R?

I didn't quote a US price in anything.

But ill use the German Euros price since I dunno where you hail from. A BRZ starting price in Germany is €29,500, a RCZR is €41,500, That's a Huge €12,000 MORE expensive, However a STI is €49,400, €7,900 more, But worth it IMO. An A45 AMG that's €49,680, And more car then both id say. So either country your in, Seems like there are a lot better options if performance is what your looking for, But not as many have such interesting looks compared to the RCZR.

EU prices are diffrent than US, here Peugeot (35k E) is just little more expensive than BRZ (30k E) and cheaper than BMW M135 and A 45 Amg (42k E)

It is great, But Evos and STIs are still more car then this, Even if they have a worse exterior(STI has better exterior then both 2013MY)
But its not hard to find cars faster or as fast for a similar price.

The RCZ-R is Ā£32,000, A BRZ/GT86 which is in similar speed is £26,495, A M135I is around £35,000, a 1LE is around £36,000, A Veloster Turbo is £22,000(great Deal) A Golf R is £30,000, And Evos and STIs are £30,000, A Z4 SDrive 20I is £30,000, And the 370Z at £27,000(Great Deal) So its not hard to find a better/better performing car for the price, Not even hard.

Its a great time. One of the best for FWD cars. This car is no joke and chassis allow for even more power, beceause car is super stable.

As to Evo's / Subaru's great cars, but some of its parts have not evolved enough to be competitive for brand new costructions.

RCZ R is light, agile, and have great engine, even its just 1.6

It is simply hard to find faster car at this price.

Im very impressed with this laptime, And also the car, It looks fantastic! Shame its Fwd though, But the interior and exterior are excellent, But its a bit hard to justify the 32k price tag when you have cars like the STI and Evo at the same level...