2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR

It's a different Mclaren brand, "Mclaren Performance Technology"

Did Mclaren help with this car? No that was the one off concept ASC Diamondback Viper http://inventorspot.com/articles/oneof_dodge_viper_concept_sale_21830

didn't mclaren have something to do with the development of this car?

Nice to see my anonymous comment 3 months ago stirred things up a bit. Now that everyone has had their say here is the bottom line.

The Americans have already produced the perfect car, the Saleen S7(Competition), after dominating European tracks with the most wins in the Saleen S7R. The aluminum OHV engine has the best power to weight ratio and is why Vette engines are found in everything from RX7s to M3s to 944s at the autocrosses.

Well that is obvious.

Well the 2010 viper did manage to shave a few seconds of the laguna seca lap time so i'm just guessing it probably would do the same at the ring

There goes the expert!!!
You don't even know how much weight they took out and you don't know how the gear ratio is, but you are already talking about 5 seconds...

How about the other expert!!!
(Porsche, Nissan, Chevy), cars are developed on the Ring That's a dumb thing to say...
So you're saying that the Porsche beat the Viper because of experience? You are saying that the Porsche whas built based on the Nurburgring?
How about the porsche beat the Viper, because it has more PS and wais less?? The Power to Weight ratio is much higher!
Viper 385.28 hp/tonne
Porsche 446.35 hp/tonne
This better Laptimes, don't have anything to do with Experience in the Nurburgring. Just look at the numbers and the result of faster Laptimes is logical.

for 2010 they made minor modifications that made it lighter and handle better. it also has shorter gear ratios to improve high end acceleration and has a slightly higher top speed. I think that could shave off a good 5 seconds.

“when are they going to test the 2010 viper at the 'ring???? has everyone forgot about it???? ”

An all new Viper is on the way. Look for a new test then.

when are they going to test the 2010 viper at the 'ring???? has everyone forgot about it????

“Oh don't get carried away. It's just a Viper.”

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Normally (Porsche, Nissan, Chevy), cars are developed on the Ring and get to lap it repeatedly over weeks/months. The Viper ACR never did this. It was factory backed, but they only did four laps, it was more like a magazine test than anything. Just by the fact that they could have run into better track conditions just by coming back on a couple of other days, they could have easily brought their lap time down. (Not to mention even more practice with the car/track).

“Oh they can! Buy Radical.”

Agreed. But the Viper is cooler, lol.

“E: There's no reason to doubt that the ACR could go 7:15 or perhaps faster with a serious attempt.”Oh don't get carried away. It's just a Viper.
“European cars cannot beat 100K American muscle like the ACR and ZR1 for a similar price.”Oh they can! Buy Radical.

European cars cannot beat 100K American muscle like the ACR and ZR1 for a similar price. It's not impressive to see euro cars costing hundreds of thousands more to beat 100K American cars. It's quite pathetic actually!

What? What 3-6 year old Euro cars beat the ACR's ring time? No such car did. Only the new Apollo, and new GT2 RS, both of which have better power and weight. The Viper ran 4 laps, and set its record. There's no reason to doubt that the ACR could go 7:15 or perhaps faster with a serious attempt.

On reliability, the ACR will last a while with certainty; if you want to sit in it during that time, well some people seem picky.

My point is, I'd love to see an american, well built car, with new developed tecnology that is as fast and as good as the european cars.
When the ACR beat the Nordschleife record, everybody whas saying OHHH a Euro car beater!! We realy showed them this time!! And what happened then whas that some european got pissed off and took some 3 - 6 year older models and beat that lap record.
And I also said, wait until they test the new cars. And there you have it, the GT2 RS...
You can drive a GT2 all day long, go to work in that car every day and the car just won't break. With the ACR?? I don't realy know.

The ZR1 already beats the Viper, just not the ACR. The ZR1 and ACR aren't really direct competition.

Hopefully for 2011 chevrolet will do something to the zr1 so it could beat the viper like the z06 did. Still a nice car though

I don't get it what's your point? The only cars that "beat" it cost more (volume doesn't have much to do with it at all, they don't build to a price like the US sadly loves to do), and as you said, they tend to use a wider range of technology. That is something worth bragging about?

And yeah, "but the ACR costs a lot less!!!" Yes, but chrisler produces a lot mor cars than the others, and have a lot less tec. put into their cars. I think the ACR doesn't even hawe carbon fiber.

Ewery time americans come up with a fast car such as the ACR, and make a fast lap time in the Nurburgring, some german get's pissd and beats the crap out of ewerybodi and makes a better lap time.
It has alwais been the same with american and asian cars.
Take a look at the Feraris, maseratis, Zondas in the list. This are cars that are much older than the ACR. Just wait until the europeans put their newest models on the track. The result will be the same as with the Apolo. LOL!!!

Notice the stock size tires....if upgraded to 35 series Corsas like the comparable Appollo and Enzo use then I'm sure the lap time would be closer to the Speed's. Not to mention the highway axle slows a bit.

With a little bit more money they could replace all the body panels with carbon fiber and lighten it considerably

I think the only improvement to be made with the viper in the next generation would be to lighten it considerably. Especially if Chrysler offered at 3 models: the standard SRT-10 coupe and roadster (similar to the current gen), the ACR (again, similar to the current gen but maybe a little tweeking), and an ultralight ACR with a little more power (say 50 or so)

Where does the LP destroy the ACR?

One track is an oval, so it's no surprise that the Viper loses, and the other is small gap.