Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 vs Dodge Challenger SRT-8 Hellcat

Picture of Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 (Mk V)
Picture of Dodge Challenger SRT-8 Hellcat
Category Mustang Shelby GT500Challenger SRT-8
Engine layout 5.8 l V86.4 l V8
Max power (ps / bhp) 659 / 650717 / 707
Max torque (Nm / lb-ft) 855 / 631881 / 650
Curb weight (kg / lb) 1750 / 38581984 / 4374
Power / tonne (ps / bhp) 377 / 371361 / 356

Acceleration

Speed & distance Mustang Shelby GT500Challenger SRT-8
0 - 100 kph 4.2 s3.9 s
0 - 200 kph 12.3 s10.7 s
0 - 250 kph 18.9 s18.3 s
Est. 100 - 200 kph 8.1 s6.8 s
0 - 60 mph 3.5 s3.6 s
0 - 100 mph 7.9 s7.6 s
0 - 150 mph 17.6 s17.0 s
Est. 1/8 mile 8.4 s @ 101.9 mph8.3 s @ 103.1 mph
1/4 mile 11.6 s @ 126.1 mph11.7 s

General performance

Category Mustang Shelby GT500Challenger SRT-8
Top speed 324 kph (201 mph)320 kph (199 mph)
Est. max acceleration 0.72 g (7 m/s²)0.77 g (8 m/s²)
60 mph - 0 31 m (101 ft)33 m (109 ft)
70 mph - 0 47 m (155 ft)47 m (154 ft)

Summary

Category Mustang Shelby GT500Challenger SRT-8
Track Performance 400389
Straight line speed 11511266
Total 15511655

Verdict

Challenger SRT-8 Hellcat is the fastest by a small margin.

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hostboy  2y ago

Having read many of the comments below, it seems to me that every American (and non-American) has different views on what constitutes a "muscle car", a "sports car", and even a "pony car".

I know someone who considers anything made past like 1973/74 to not be considered muscle cars, but rather sports cars. Admittedly he's not a huge car person. Personally, I consider just about ANYthing with a 5.0L+ engine to be a muscle car, and ESPECIALLY 6.0L+, and all muscle cars need to be 8 cylinders with no exceptions (other than the very rare occasional turbo 4 or 6 limited edition cult classic from the 1980s, like SVO Mustang, 20th Anniversary Trans Am, or GNX Regal).

Of course muscle cars need RWD. Having the front wheels spin means it's not a muscle car, for two very different reasons: AWD will pull instant torque (akin to an electric or rally car), and FWD cannot handle more than 350 hp in most cases (as most FWDs tend to be economy cars or hot hatches).

With that being said, I wouldn't necessarily consider cars like the M3 E92, C63 AMG C204, or GranTurismo M145 to be "muscle cars". True, they have naturally aspirated V8s, RWD, two doors, came out in the late 2000s and early 2010s (around the same time as the revival of the "true" muscle car). They're also inexpensive to buy these days and around the same value as a Boss 302 Mustang, a Shelby GT500, a Camaro SS 1LE, a Camaro ZL1, or a Challenger SRT8. But they are far more expensive to repair. And most importantly, BMW, Mercedes and Maserati ALREADY ARE associated with "fast/snobby" even as brands themselves.

I agree with one commenter that a muscle car cannot start off as a sports (or luxury) car. The only exceptions to the rule are the AMC AMX (a sports car, but based on the Javelin pony car) and the Cadillac CTS-V/CT5-V Blackwing (a "luxury" car, but always has been cheaper than competitors from the start AND based on a variant of the Holden Commodore/Chevrolet Camaro chassis).

Also, because Cadillac (and Lincoln too) DO have a history of slapping unusually BIG-displacement engines into unassuming non-performance-oriented cars, AND that their status as "old man's cars" differs them from the "snobby/(young) bad boy" association of most of the European brands, it might as well be easier to call their cars muscle cars. Albeit they are a little too big to be classified as such (especially those from the 1960s and early '70s).

Cadillac has V-Series and Blackwing models. Lincoln has Grand Touring PHEV models. All three are absolutely a good start to appeal to youthful enthusiastic buyers. But they're still not the snobby machines a gold-digging Tinder or Bumble girl might associate with.


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uptownfunker  9y ago

I was surprised the new Hellcat I just a point shy! Barnacles! If we change the 0-100mph time on the GT500 (from 7.9) to 7.7 (Motor Trend got this time), we will see 2 or 3 more points added to the Shelby.


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hemisrt  11y ago

No one will get "ugly" on this thread. The reason is simple. The definition of muscle cars constantly changes...and anyone's opinion is as good as any. I choose to take a historical approach. I've seen Vette's that were modified into dragsters. I've seen them modded with oversized motors...which made them muscle coupes. If you read about stock Vette's, you will see them referred to as "American Sports Cars."


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BR2+  11y ago

Oh im sure they will come out, Give it time.

Ps: I just finished watching the movie Gravity...


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V8Supercar1  11y ago

Its nice to see we can have this discussion without the typical fanboy rage. Why can't every discussion be this way? lol


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BR2+  11y ago

I agree 50% and disagree 50%.

Stalemate homie.

@196ss

Thats an interesting way of looking at it, But saying that, one could say that a STI is a SuperCar compared to a Mini Coupe, But i can kind of agree with that view point, But at the same time there needs to be something solid, Althoug there really cant be since this is quite subjective, But i get what your saying.


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hemisrt  11y ago

WRT muscle cars...the Corvette never fit the original definition (see my earlier posts). It was an American Sports car...and always has been one. In the 50's and early 60's....it's performance was comparable to high end Euro sports cars. From the late 60's until 2013, it's performance was not in the same league as supercars. The new Corvette can now play in that arena. It has made substantial progress in handling (as well as interior build). The Viper is an American Supercar. Are they as good as the best supercars? No, but they cost 80% less. Neither, is or ever was, a "muscle car." Muscle cars by definition are cars that can be purchased by the "working class." The modern Mustang and Camaro are "Pony-Muscle." The modern Challenger is "Muscle." As they get better at handling/stopping....they are evolving away from the "muscle" definition....which will be obsolete in a few years.


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hemisrt  11y ago

Looks like the Charger will get the blown 6.2. It may end up being the fastest sedan in the world. http://www.torquenews.com/106/707hp-dodge-charger-hellcat-all-official


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196ss  11y ago

Why BR2's last comment was scratched? It was normal discussion, nothing rude, uncensored or offtopic.


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196ss  11y ago

I mean if you compare C6Z06 with Dodge Challenger it could be a supercar, but when you compare it with Ferrari Enzo it is more like muscle.


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bluefingers  11y ago

Enzo and Pagani are muscle cars, nah, FF, maybe, but not a 2 (or 3)-seat, 200-mph supercar.


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Shaggy  11y ago

+BR2+: I agree with you there.


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BR2+  11y ago

I dont particularly think its lost any of its Sports, Muscle, Super attributes , I think its more in how the times are changing. Vipers and Vettes by practicaly everyone have been called and considerd Sports, Muscle and Super, And i agree. But i still say SuperMuscle, And what do you mean Enzo and Pagani?..


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196ss  11y ago

I think the Corvette has evolved from a muscle car in GT in the mid-'70s, when it lost a lot of power, but has received significant improvements of braking and cornering. Viper, I think, never was a muscle car, but I can understand some logic when the nowadays Viper and Corvette is referred to the muscle, - in comparison with Enzo and Pagani they are.


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BR2+  11y ago

True it does, But i think the C6 looks more like a traditional SportsCar then the C7, Id still consider it Muscle, But less then a Stingray, C7 is pretty exotic and definetly a head turner, Specially here it would be.

As for the C5 ZO6...Id say its more Sports then Super, And more Sports then Muscle, But has propertys of both MuscleCar, SuperCar, And SportsCar, Vettes have always had those similiaritys with each category of cars, But as the generations get better, Theres more of one then the other, The C7 theres more Super, The C6 also but with a tie in Muscle and Sports, C5 has a tad bit of everything, But id say more traditional Sports, C4 more Muscle then anything, C3 and C2 definetly more muscle, C1 Sports.

As for handling, I dont particularly think handling should have anything to do with it, Handling is "Extremely" subjectiv(As is everything-_-) But old school tradition point and squirt Muscle seems to fit that bill, but was never a need. German Muscle is practically he same way.


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Apathy  11y ago

@BR2

The Stingray offers the same options and then some that put it a step above a C6 Z51 handling package in terms of handling capability and feel.

What, in your opinion, is a C5 Z06 considered? I've always considered it a sports car. Lightweight, good handling, quick lap times, competed with the best of the best during its production run, and so on.

My problem with using the term "muscle" to describe any car like the viper or corvette is that the term is usually used to describe cars with lots of raw power, but limited handling capability.


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lamboboy  11y ago

I think definitive sports cars= Honda NSX Type-R, Mazda RX7 Spirit R, BMW Z4-M Coupe etc. Along those lines.


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V8Supercar1  11y ago

i agree


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BR2+  11y ago

SuperCar, Hands down.


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V8Supercar1  11y ago

@BR2+
What do you consider the Nissan GTR?