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At this point I'm just waiting for the new Type R's laptime. And considering the new regulations, I highly doubt it will be in any way faster than the old Type R. Which at the end will prove the 7:43 to be fake.

Quote>"Is the subtle footnote of "pre-production version in final stages of testing" going to be a trend for other manufacturer's records in future?"

YES! Fastestlaps!😂 You must've been psychic! Bugatti (PLUS+ others) want your location!😂

Love the "Video unavailable. This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated.". Just shows what a heavily censored, cancerous shithole YouTube is.

Sooo... Megane does 7:40 we cheer, but honda does 7:43 it's fake?

It's too bad Honda aren't allowed this sleight of hand in F1 or maybe one of the greatest in drivers in history wouldn't have a 12th place as his only finish out of five races.

hahah not only "eercditc" :P
https://fastestlaps.com/articles/zonda-r-laps-the-ring-in-647-becomes-the-fastest-eercditc

This new reply system is becoming very confusing.

The fact isheet, They cheated, There's really no debating about it, We have all said a cage is fine, It's for safety, But stripping car essentials is not, And again, 166mph on the straight yet a 400bhp Carrera S is more powerful, Lighter, More aerodynamic and with a dct and faster achieved the same? No way in hell.

However, Another question remains, Tyrespecially, I don't no the type or compound, But I've only heRd people throw out MPSC2s on this site, I've no idea, but if that really is the case then 5s should be more like 10s, But then again the last one tested wasn't stock either, So the estimated timing would be off.

Either way, The simple fact is, That completely removing the seats and center console, is not legit, No matter of the cage.

Wow, another 'ring time and another claim of fake. How unexpected.

Just show me a real production car driven by independent driver below 8min and Honda (and driver ) will get all my respect!

In the "supertest " the old Civic R production car die 8.15min by c. Gebhard. Top speed Döttinger Höhe was 234kmh. Peproduction record car with 7.50min had 270kmh Döttinger Höhe...
Engine Settings. Car Settings Camber etc.. we all dont know.

This actual record is about the same. Honda deleted my fact based Comment on their YouTube Channel. That says all to me!!

Long power outage today and site was offline for about 6 hours. Meanwhile heated debate here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrrR56zHh4o. Honda fanboys and apologists in full force :D

I think, given the speeds and pace involved, that lap times like this shouldn't be accepted if they were set without a roll cage. It is irresponsible to think that it should be acceptable, and expected, that someone be able to buy a car from a dealer, drive it to Nordschleife and try and match this time without first fitting a roll cage.

I dunno what kind of roll cage it has, Nor do I no the material it is made with, Nor do I no if it's just inside or actually straight bolted to the chassis, As for tyres, That also, I've herd a few things but nothing solid, But I don't see why they would put such a tyre as the MPSC2s on this car as the actual production model.

But the fact remains, No seats except driver, And stripped Center console, That alone should be enough to have it removed, Unless that stuff is actually on the production car or as n option, Which I highly doubt t.

Also, Does anybody else find it weird that a 320bhp manual car hit 166mph on the longest straight? That's roughly 5mph off what a Z28 hit and 1mph off what a 400bhp Carrera S with PDK hit...

One fool on my video comments that "rollcage is heavier than back seat and AC" and therefore it is OK for Honda to call that production time lol

last gen type r had conti 6 tires this one has cup2 - record sounds legit

Considering it did it with no Center console, And removed passenger seats, And supposed questionable stock tyres, It should be deleted, A roll cage is fine, There on a dangerous track pushing the car it's understandable, But taking out all what was listed I don't see those equaling the roll cage weight, Depending on the type of cage and material it was made of, Either way they cheated plain n simple So should be deleted.

My thoughts:

In addition to that Honda Poland confirmed car was using Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2.