Chevrolet Corvette Z06 lap time at Sachsenring

Motor Trend with SRT Viper TA on Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca.
Heat-Cycled Racing Slicks: 1:30.78
Pirelli P Zero Corsa: 1:33.62

Chris Harris with 991 GT3 on Autodromo Internacional do Algarve.
Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R: 2:00.00
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2: 2:02.02

sportscars 5/2015 with 991 GT3 on ATP Papenburg circuit.
Dunlop Sport Maxx Race: 1:12.10
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2: 1:12.50
Michelin Pilot Super Sport: 1:13.70

sportscars 10/2014 with McLaren 650S on Sachsenring circuit.
Pirelli P Zero Corsa: 1:33.15
Pirelli P Zero: 1:34.07
with McLaren MP4-12C
Pirelli P Zero Corsa: 1:33.69
Pirelli P Zero: 1:34.82

Oh please, those tyres are joke. If they used cut slicks instead, the time probably wouldn't be any faster.

Is this cheating? No. Other manufacturers providing their press cars with Trofeo Rs (Z/28).
But tires are the black gold. A GT2 RS with sry Pirelli Trofeo R (not Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2) and Walter would have done Sachsenring with around 1:30.50, but not shure if faster than Z06, but it is also true that Z06 is always tested with Z07 Package (while the Z07 package brings near-slick Sport Cup rubber - Car and Driver Magazine).
Would like to see head to head 1598kg/659hp Z06 Z07 Package and 1412kg/620hp GT2 RS on Trofeo Rs on Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca tested by R. Pobst.

I dont know what this dumb bs tallking about tires perfromance etc. cheating should be... it is clearly stated the Z06 was running with Z07 factory option pack... if u could read German u would easy understand why the Corvette demolished the McLaren and all other laptimes... most important point ... giant tires at the front 285/30 vs 235/35 of the McLaren... with Cup tires and according to the test best brake system currently on sale in the Corvette, the McLaren had no chance right from start because the Corvett could brake so much later and harder and more controlled... 2. the aerodynamic pack on the Corvette realy works and is not only a marketing gimick claiming stupid downforce numbers... the driver can feel with increasing speed a increasing downforce.. 3. the traction controll system of the Corvette is miles ahead all others togther with a superb suspension setup sticky tires resulting in breath taking corner speed... the test driver had the feeling the traction system allows 99.5% of the possible and keeped the car right at the limit... the backside of the medal... the Z06 with Z07 pack turns into a pure track monster ... nearly no daily driver us left... the tires dont work if not heated up, in the rain they are completely useless etc.

@sroser the MTM B8 LMS laptime was 1:28.89 not 1:29.90... clearly claimed in YOUR video link and MTM homepage link, means the less powerfull MTM R8 LMS (race car turned into a road leagal car) was over 1.5s faster than the more

Very interesting fiasco, any links to this blog?

Says who, the links in the blog is references to very disappointed people who got that car for satisfaction, there is so much problems and flaws regarding with that car.
Who tel hell came up with the idea of the aerodynamics of the car, bad paintwork, heating issues among other, if that doesn't concern people in this blog, than I feel sorry for all of you. The blog is not about hate, but about disappointment, the zr1 is so much better, Tadge Juecther should be embarrass, instead of doing everything to hide the problems with the new Z06.
There is links and proof to all the claims and disappointed customers in the blog, but I understand its difficult to svollow the information offered, for all the fans of the car

BR2+ - The Z06 Cup 2s are GM-specific marked tyres.

http://us.michelinman.com/US/en/tires/products/pilot-sport-cup-2.html

Front tires Size Features Warranties MSRP Michelin Availability
Suggested Version New
P285/30ZR19 (94Y) TPC Runflat, Standard on your Chevrolet $598
Limited
Availability
Rear tires Size Features Warranties MSRP Michelin Availability
Suggested Version New
P335/25ZR20 (99Y) TPC Runflat, Standard on your Chevrolet $725
Inventory
Available

http://us.michelinman.com/US/en/tires/products/pilot-sport-cup-2/details.html#detail-sku-table

TPC = GM

Corvettefiasco, stop spamming your retarded hate-blog.

Your last post had no opinion or content, just a link to a retarded hate blog.

Keep deleting all comments that not suits your pathetic view of the automobile world.
The rumour fastestlaps has got in the internet seems to be true, unfortunately

The Z06 is very slow in a straight. If you can't beat a car with only 475hp (GT3) to 150mph, you're slow, fact.

Look at the damn tyre, see all the stuff stuck to it. THat doesn't happen to the same extent on a regular Cup 2, which has more thread AND IS STILL 2.4s QUICKER THAN A CUP+ ON A 2 MINUTE TRACK!

In 2008, the GTR was a lot, lot more advanced than a 911 Turbo, which had no DCT or ATTESA-like system.

First comment not true in any form.
The moment you call any ZO6 slow, Is when your losing it, It's slow if your comparing it to n S7 or P1.

And really? You can't buy them? Because the link I just gave you is where you can, The problem with your link, If you look closely, It it's the Michelin UK website, Not the US website where I got mine from, Given the rarity of the new ZO6 there right now it's understandable, So your somewhat right, But wrong.

There's not many cars more advanced then a 911, So ill call that questionable.

No other car uses quite as ridiculous a tyre as the Z06. It stepped outside the ballpark comletely. It also has a reputation for being slow and heat soak, hence why it gets a lot of attention.

The GTR in 2008 was a lot more advanced than the 911 Turbo, it took Porsche another two iterations to catch up.

Order them from Michelin? Size not available. Non-standard!

http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michelin-pilot-sport-cup-2#tab-tyres-benefits

If your car can fit 285x335s it can, That or heavily modify the car to fit. ZPs only come in that size if you opt for the Run flat versions, But non ZP comes in 28 different versions down to 235s.

Well u can buy the same tires as the z06 but they wouldn't fit on your car.

Yeah Flab, I wish people would realize that and stop using as an excuse, You notice they DONT pick on any other car?

@S

You can believe what you want, Tyres ARE part of the car, the same way a foot is part of the body, Dunno why i even debating this with you since your crap on the P1 page.

The GTR back in the day was barely, If any more advanced then a 911 Turbo or ZO6, And it still beat them with heavier weight, And the ZO6 had horrid tyres back then, And if you think a ZO6s manual is slow old tech, You obviously dont have a clue about technology, Not a clue.

And please, Just tell me how much stickier the ZO6s Cup2s are compared to "Standard" Cup2s? Since you know, I can order the same pair from Michelin themselves AND TireRack in the same sizes? Lemme guess there 20% stickier right?...

And again, I was using Harris's part as an example, Since you say there dangerous, Which that is the point your missing, Its not the tyre, Its the PERSON using them, They may be diabolically unsafe, But that ALL depends on the person, And from my expierence with extremely similiar tyres, That IS accurate. If anyone is gonna go pick up a pair of MPS or trofeos, Theres a VERY good chance they know what there doing, Nobody spends 3k on tyres like that and dont know what there getting.

@P
Its true not everybody understands the grip level, But if your picking up said tyres theres a damn good chance you have done your homework on them, Are you gonna shell out THAT much money on

Tires are not the end-all be-all. They help, but they're not everything. Remember this little gem of an article MotorTrend did?...

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1409_on_chevrolet_camaro_do_the_tires_make_the_car/braking_skidpad.html

Chris Harris? Just because Chris Harris can powerslide a Z28 around every corner on a private track and Bovingdon can do the same in a 458SA on Cup 2s that doesn't make them safe road tyres. They're diabolically unsafe in the wet in most hands. But that's aside from the point, since the Z06's Cup 2s are nowhere even near standard Cup 2s... less tread... massively stickier. Z06 Cup 2s are to standard Cup 2s what industrial bonding agent is to Pritt Stick. Hell, it's not even shaped like a normal road tyre, the edges are damn near square, whereas they're usually more rounded.

They're not part of a car anymore than a shoe is part of an athlete. An athlete can train all year but he won't win anything running in boots.

The GTR had an advanced AWD system and DCT transmission that gave it an edge over other cars aside form any tyres. The Z06 is just heavy, slow old tech manual RWD with sticky tyres.

Dispute your last point too. Standard Cup 2s (much slower than Z06 Cup 2s) give 2.4s over Cup+ on a 2 minute lap. That is proven. 2.4s over an already insanely good tyre, that was stickier than PZCS. Tyres can make any POS car go fast.

Car can be driven on agrressive tires in safe way, but not everybody know the grip level on diffrent enviroment and with diffrent tempratures.
Guy who know all that, can drive normal, but, imo it anyway limit everyday performance in most of the countries of north part of Europe.

But maybe there are guys that can enjoy the semi race tires on normal road, but still, I dont see the point.

Beceause its not about how fast car can be - its not a race. Its how fast car can be in standard configuration this is all about, all other situations are semi raceing stuff.

Aero, slicks, fuel, setups, pressure, engine tunning, suspension, weight loss etc... by managing all that parts of the car You an increase performance of any car, but imo its diffrent category.

Its the same story like power increase, thats tunning, its not stock, and same with tires.

P

Did you not see Cruz Harris driving a Z28 on Trofeos and a GT3 on MPSC on a race track in the WET? He didn't crash

We all know grippy tyres have less grip in wet weather, But it's always the driver to know how to handle it,semi slick tyres are only as dangerous as the drivers exp. Again like I've mentioned, I live in the UK where it rains 99 times out of 100 and I run A048s front and rear, And I've never crashed, Due to my exp with them. Any tyre can be dangerous regardless of tread pattern.

And MPSC, Trofeos, Corsas, etc there all road tyres intended for max grip, They wouldnt be road tyres and meet DOT standard if they weren't, They may have less tread then most, but they gave tread nonths less and that's a huge difference between none. Every car here has road legal tyres, Making them road tyres, .