Picture of Porsche 911 Turbo S

Porsche 911 Turbo S

Boxer 6, twin turbo
580 ps (572 bhp)
750 Nm (553 lb-ft)
1602 kg (3532 lbs)
362 ps / tonne
Picture of Ferrari 488 GTB

Ferrari 488 GTB

V8 twin turbo
670 ps (661 bhp)
760 Nm (561 lb-ft)
1541 kg (3397 lbs)
435 ps / tonne

Lap Times 8

  911 Turbo S488 GTB
Virginia International Raceway Grand East Course (post 01/2014) 2:46.802:45.10
Le Mans (Bugatti) 1:47.931:44.28
Nürburgring Nordschleife 7:17.117:21.00
Hockenheim Short 1:08.501:07.00
Willow Springs 1:24.261:26.92
Sachsenring 1:32.301:30.99
Laguna Seca (post 1988) 1:33.211:31.68
Vairano Handling Course 1:12.941:11.52

Performance

  911 Turbo S488 GTB
Kerb weight
Top speed 334 kph (208 mph)331 kph (206 mph)
0 - 40 kph 1.0 s1.1 s
0 - 50 kph 1.1 s1.3 s
0 - 60 kph 1.4 s1.6 s
0 - 80 kph 2.0 s2.2 s
0 - 100 kph 2.7 s2.8 s
0 - 120 kph 3.6 s3.6 s
0 - 130 kph 4.2 s4.0 s
0 - 140 kph 4.8 s5.0 s
0 - 160 kph 6.0 s5.5 s
0 - 180 kph 7.5 s6.7 s
0 - 200 kph 9.3 s8.1 s
0 - 220 kph 11.5 s9.8 s
0 - 230 kph 12.8 s10.7 s
0 - 250 kph 15.6 s12.9 s
0 - 300 kph 29.6 s23.9 s
0 - 30 mph 0.9 s1.2 s
0 - 40 mph 1.3 s1.7 s
0 - 60 mph 2.5 s2.7 s
0 - 70 mph 3.2 s3.4 s
0 - 80 mph 4.0 s4.2 s
0 - 90 mph 5.0 s5.0 s
0 - 100 mph 6.0 s5.9 s
0 - 130 mph 10.0 s9.9 s
0 - 140 mph 11.8 s11.5 s
0 - 160 mph 17.5 s15.5 s
Est. 1/8 mile 6.9 s @ 105.0 mph6.9 s @ 110.0 mph
1/4 mile 10.5 s @ 133.0 mph10.3 s @ 140.3 mph
Est. 1/2 mile 17.0 s @ 154.1 mph16.6 s @ 164.0 mph
1000 m 19.3 s18.7 s @ 283.0 kph
Est. 100 - 140 kph 2.1 s2.1 s
Est. 100 - 200 kph 6.3 s5.2 s
Est. 200 - 300 kph 20.4 s16.2 s
100 kph - 0 30 m (100 ft)30 m (97 ft)
130 kph - 0 53 m (173 ft)51 m (166 ft)
200 kph - 0 122 m (399 ft)121 m (396 ft)
60 mph - 0 28 m (92 ft)29 m (94 ft)
18m slalom 72.2 kph (44.9 mph)72.2 kph (44.9 mph)
Fuel economy 12.6 l/100 km (19 mpg US / 22 mpg UK)16.3 l/100 km (14 mpg US / 17 mpg UK)
Lateral acceleration 1.05 g (10 m/s²)1.02 g (10 m/s²)

Summary

  911 Turbo S488 GTB
Track Performance 766789
Straight line speed 43074369
Total 50735157

Verdict

There is no clear winner in this comparison.

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Tyrone1  5m ago

The 488 is clearly the faster car around a track. Considerably faster on all tracks. And yet the 911 turbo S beats it on the ring by 4 seconds. Does this prove that:
-the ring is not nearly the benchmark it is said to be? (weather, and lap conditions affecting the result hugely)
-sport auto have a national bias towards Porsche?

 

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manone  5m ago

the second. It has worked this way for decades: journalists have passed, german propaganda remained the same. Sandbagging non-arian cars is "being a good citizen" for germans, even more so than not littering common properties, not putting feet on trains' seats, paying due taxes, standing in lines, etc


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Enzo  5m ago

The Nordschleife is more like a real street with its bumpy and narrow
track. So it's probably the beste surface to compare production cars, where the owners are using them most of the time.

It would be very interesting what the Ferrari and the Porsche could do with a proper Nordschleife Pro like the record holder Lars Kern. What do you think which car would be faster?


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Hans  5m ago @manone

The Ferrari was tested by different driver. Probably he was worse driver than the one that was driving 911.
And yeah 488 is clearly faster car or it have better tires stock. I don't know what tires it have.


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hostboy  5m ago @manone

Is this cosimo again?


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Enzo  5m ago @hostboy

No, not Cosimo, I don't like him either.
I guess on the ring is the Porsche always faster....


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manone  5m ago @Hans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK5CxS966Cg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7vk5-Bfd3U

driver's name of 991 turbo s is Christian Gebhart,
driver's name of 488 is Christian Gebhart,
Are you saying that Christian Gebhart is a worse driver than Christian Gebhart? maybe. To me it is more likely that Christian Gebhart, just like von Saurma decades ago (just like any other german magazine's driver), becomes a worse driver when he drives non arian cars.


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Enzo  5m ago @manone

...so then we've to wait for a comparison Test by non german
journalists. On paper 488 has to be faster if not......


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Tyrone1  5m ago @Enzo

There is, motortrend (usa). Ferrari is 1.5 seconds faster on laguna seca. But i wouldn't 100 percent trust motortrend times either even if i dont doubt 488 is faster.


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Enzo  5m ago @Tyrone1

As you wrote before, I guess it's the Nordschleife with its special requirements. Very fast corners and a very bumpy track, so maybe the 488 is too stiff and therefore loses time. At Laguna Seca or Hockenheim the 488 setup is perfect. What is the offiical Ferrari time at the ring? I guess if they weren't happy with the time they'd forced sport auto to do another set of laps. Both are great cars at track and on road.


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Tyrone1  5m ago @Enzo

Hence why it should not be the benchmark that it is. It is bumpy, dangerous, you can never drive at 10/10ths, weather conditions can modify a lap time in huge ways (and im not talking about rain or shine: track temperature, humidity, air temp etc....)


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Enzo  5m ago @Tyrone1

Well, all right allthough the conditions effect the laptime on any other track as well, but not in that big delta in time like on the ring. You also can not compare a laptime in Laguna Sec from today with yesterday. There can also be a few 10ths between this days.
For me the ring is the most challenging track in the world and with its topography and roadlike surface for me it's the best place to compare production cars. If a car is fast at the ring it'll be fast at any other track (maybe not the fastest) and also on normal road.
Imagine, if they start comapring the cars only on race track you either have cars like P1 (lowering the chassis to a minimum only at track, not road legal) or cars where you get problems in the alpes or at a normal street in scottland..........
Don't get me wrong I like the P1 a lot and it's very clever to lower the car on track, but this also effects the behavior on normal road. If I want to buy a race car I'll buy a race car, but if I buy a drivers cars I'd also like to drive on the streets between Modena and London.
I don't know maybe I'm wrong and any other track for comparison tests would also be fine for me.
All I can say is that if you ever have the chance to go for a run at the Nordschleife, do it. It's so different to all other tracks and is so much fun. But I think you have driven the ring yet, for sure.


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manone  5m ago @Tyrone1

don't know about nurburgring being a benchmark or not. But i repeat: there is absolutely no reason in itself why ferraris should fare worse than german cars on that track. It is widely used for car setups by evey car manufacturer. The only and so obvious reason why ferraris turn out to be slower than german cars on that track is that the tests are performed by german magazines. you take powerslidelover, a good enthusiast driver, who enjoys every now and then to lap his cars at nurburgring, yet he is faster than the times sportauto's chief pilot von saurma achieved with ferraris. Let me remind you that von saurma was consistently 3-4 secs within Rohrl's manufacturer reference times at nurburgring, and on par with aces like Basseng with Porsches, so he was easily at pro-level. To correct for german bias you should remove a solid 15 seconds from their ferraris' times to get a comparable figure.


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Enzo  5m ago @manone

I don't know.
Everyone is getting crazy about ring laptimes, justified or not.
Hope to see Raffaele doing a lap with the 488 or 488 Speciale.
And then we can compare it with the laptime by Lars Kern in a 911 Turbo. Then you can be sure that nobody could lap it faster than their best drivers. I asume Lars Kern, who has bearen Nick Tandy that day. The only thing we don't know, who's the faster driver. Let's see who's going to beat the GT2 RS time. McLaren Senna? Ferrari 488 Speciale?


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Enzo  5m ago @Enzo

.......Then you can be sure that nobody could lap it faster than their best drivers. The only thing we don't know, who's the faster driver. I asume Lars Kern, who has beaten Nick Tandy that day. ...


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Fastedee  5m ago @manone

Maybe they're super duper geniuses eh mein Herren lololol
Lmao.


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Tyrone1  5m ago @Enzo

Ive never seen the problem with Cars like P1 and Ford GT lowering the ride height. You buy it for the track: you use it on the track. It doesnt invalidate the lap time because its "not road legal". The **** is this shit?! Are we gonna start saying because cars go above 130kph its invalid cos not road legal either?
Who the **** cares who has the fastest car "in the real world", because in the real world, if you race cars of that power and performance, you should be given a life sentence in jail...


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Tyrone1  5m ago @Enzo

Frankly, theres nothing wrong with companies like Porsche and Lambo chasing down laptimes left, right and center. The american big three seem to enjoy doing it too (tho only on american tracks, conveniently).
This is not a reason to bash companies that do not practice this "laptime above all else" policy. (mclaren/ferrari). And even if i would love to see the 488 speciale murder the GT2RS around the ring, Ferrari wont do it. Nor will Mclaren.


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Enzo  5m ago @Tyrone1

....good point at the end!


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Fastedee  10m ago

Porsche fuel economy for the draw lol.


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Fastedee  11m ago

Porsche is left for dead over 100 mph but there's no clear winner.


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Renzone  2y ago

488 win <3


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cosimo  2y ago

good driver because he didn't knock him out. lol

what if the camera guy was thrown away couple of hundred meters ? would you all d-bags be making all these dumb comments about the camera guy being at fault and not the lambo driver that seem to suffer from astigmatism and chalazion.

keep up the good work boys, I'm enjoying reading your buffoonery remarks. :)

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thedriver150  2y ago

@cosimo You are one stupid kid. The lambo driver saved the cameraman's life which ran in front of the cars when lights went off. Damn kids shouldn't talk about cars..


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jj Lu  2y ago

Totally agree, good driver, very controlable car. A Viper or Corvette would have spun-off already. The flag guy and camera man are the problem here.


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Gayimo  2y ago

Has nothing to do with driver. The Aventador owner did pretty well, saving the life of the Cameraguy and took the victory!


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cosimo  2y ago

another german antsy pantsy douche driver in a car he can't control, go back to your vw turbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzzuN6PQvtE


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cosimo  2y ago

proof why most drivers are stupid and can't drive a ferrari or lambo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q70H4Z1wepY


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dddd  2y ago

Actually Ferrari's press cars have claimed power output. At least from what i have read. And that is why in official tests they perform well.


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cosimo  2y ago

we already know most of the magazines are cheaters when it comes to ferrari and how they start bitching about the car has more power than what the factory claims. porsche has lower power, yet it blows away the competition lol. so f***ed up with porsche and their dirty little game to force you to belive power isn't everything.

i bet they would limit the laps to 3 if no representative was around, it's a dirty little german scheme they always plan ahead before any testing is scheduled.

who cares if 458s is slower than standard 458 italia in a straight line ? the rs is also slower than gt3, are you complaining ? of course not! because hail piech and his vag cream group.

i bet you $10,000 a 911 turbo will walk away from a gt3 cup in a straight line.

some of you are either from xbox/playstation generation or i'm dealing with bunch of noobs that have no experience with supercars, let alone a banged up car with a suzuki 4-stroke 60 hp motor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aODISxOHiI


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dddd  2y ago

Unfortunately...yes...I have read on Ferrarichat that 458 Speciale isnt faster in straight line than 458 Italia (numerous owners have said so).

Isnt this pathetic ? And we can observe that on tracks it also does not perform well.

We will see whether F12 TDF is any faster than F12.


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FastestLaps  2y ago

dddd, are you implying that 458 Speciale is not that Special?


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dddd  2y ago

It is sad but Speciale is not that impressive when we talk about track performance and straight line acceleration.

I totally dont understand why Ferrari play so softly.


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manone  2y ago

daily dose of laughter

See, funny how you should say revving an engine and launch control are completely different things so they shouldn't be compared. Revving an engine is bare minimum expected for a car to deal with.

revised fluid dynamics

A Ferrari is not built to be durable enough to handle revving, let alone 100 launches over an hour. It's like comparing learning the alphabet and complex algebra. It's pathetic

revised alphabet and complex algebra. what is "complex" algebra, by the way? a "complicated" algebra or the algebra of complex numbers?

Lol so revving the engine makes the engine catch fire? That's pretty pathetic. A Porsche turbo S will allow you to do 100 consequetive launch controls.

revised axioms. i think you forgot 3 zeroes.


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manone  2y ago

easy, if you check sachsenring lap times you'll notice how strict they are with ferrari and are only given 5 laps to record the best lap time. while porsche does their own testing during the weekend and tweak their cars before handing it over to auto bild guys to set the best lap time.
typical german cheating method, what else is new ? is it worth for ferrari to fly their engineers to germany just for a 1min and 30s test ?

ahmen. french sportauto, few years back tested at spa ferrari 430 scuderia against corvette zr1 http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/spa-francorchamps. For maximum unbiasedness, they used a pilot Soheil Ayari racing in fia-gt1 series for a corvette c6.R team. To make even more crystal clear their agenda, when they have done 7 laps in scuderia and 11 in zr1, finally they managed to be 1 tenth or so faster in the zr1 and sportauto wanted to call it a quit. It was just because of the presence of few ferrari representatives there who complained and asked for an equal number of laps, that they managed to get the final results, as we now them. That's what it is known as typical "ferrari cheating". The day when italian magazines will start doing the same with foreign cars, italians might start to see the sun rise again...lol


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cosimo  2y ago

alejandro videos are worth watching while at taco bell and releasing some hot red gas with friends and making mehican jokes.

his videos are closer to prank videos and ginger guy that threatens to kill anyone who makes fun of his hair and freckles.

he works in the prostitution business and is known for being one of the biggest pimps around guadalajara.....enuff said

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0lbJy61DcA


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cosimo  2y ago

who woke up the right wing party ?

lt. ss-axy, have some of these before you start turning blue, purple and end up with lava orange magma

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most of the drivers are inexperienced when it comes to N/A engines and peak power @ certain rpm with ferraris and lambos, this is of course a fact and I've witnessed it at vmax200 and other parts of the world.

gustav videos are laughable, it's like he picks these loser drivers out of craiglist with an ad that goes like 'race your super car at our event and get a free handjob + 250 euros' win or lose you decide. swedish freaks.

I checked the weight for 458S and it weighs around 1,455 kg and the gt3 rs comes at 1,420 kg, that's after 3 years when they laid their hands on the 458s to improve the next rs, nothing new here it's what porsche does and they did the same when nissan slaughtered their little pony benchmark 911 turbo.

this is the true performance of 458s (615 PS) a healthy car without any tuning

0-100: 3.0
0-200: 9.3
0-300: 32.9 yes, a bit slower than standard 458, because of the extra downforce it has, track car but soften down because the owners are starbucks drive-thru fans.

most of the slow 458s are not broken in properly and like i said, owners are chicken heads that have no clue when to shift at what rpm. when you put them in a turbo car you get the massive torque at low down rpm and you're good to go. it would be much easier if they set it to automatic shifting instead of manual.


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manone  2y ago

Speciale was slaughtered by GT3 RS in Solomon Andrin show. Actually the 991 GT3 RS surprised everyone by how fast it was. It was almost as fast as 675LT and faster than Bugatti Veyron, Aventador SV etc.

you said it right: a show. like top gear and the likes... and you call "slaughter" something coming from a show?

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