Porsche 918 Spyder vs McLaren P1

Man I remember watching the Top Gear reviews for these cars for the first time, incredible cars

For the the tyres that they have, they’re still incredibly fast… at the end of the day the 918 should still be faster than the upcoming 296 gtb from Ferrari (which has 830 hp), and on the track it’s still on the 720s/Lambo Huracan Performante level, which is impressive. On cup2R it would probably be at the level of the gt2rs/Ferrari Pista, if not better. I think that on cup2R it might stand a chance against the SF90 (maybe it wouldn’t beat it, but it should be very close).

The Porsche fanbase under this post manages to complain about the numbers when the P1 produces twice the downforce, weighs significantly less and still has more power. At least 2 guys complained about the Spa lap time being set with other cars present on the track, but anyone that actually watched the video can see one driving by in the pit lane, and another one right before the end of the video that if anything helped the lap time with slipstream. At no point through the whole video was the 918 stuck behind someone else. If you keep up with the Porsche fanbase long enough, you’ll see that these excuses are common. You should see the comments below the Lamborghini Aventador SVJ’s record lap video, they’re saying it went faster than a GT2RS because it had a roll cage. Can’t wait to hear the excuse for the Senna being 7 seconds faster around Spa-Francorchamps than the GT2RS MR.

I now could add/edit my previous post

Spa: the track was not empty and didn't drive the same driver...
Laguna Seca: count (918 wins)
Algarve International Circuit (Portimao): count (918 wins, because d'Ambrosio is (more) professional driver, obviously, his lap times from standing start are similar to those of Harris)
Thermal Club Raceway: count (918 wins)
Goodwood Hill climb: 918 was in electric mode
Anglesey Coastal: 918 was with the top off... and P1, u know...
Autocar Wet Handling Track: wet
Autocar Dry Handling Track: two damp patches on P1's run
Silverstone (National Circuit): count (P1 wins)
Thermal Club Raceway Long: count (918 wins)

I think I could now say that Porsche 918 is faster then McLaren P1 on track

There pretty much even in everything, its like splitting hairs. Its like saying hey which Mustang GT 5.0 is faster in the 1/4, The 2014 or the 2016....................

I do think these 2 cars are even stevens in a straight line. But the biggest swing factor in this comparison is an unjustified Goodwood hillclimb. One with 903hp, the other only strictly electric power.

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Nine lap times to compare, but, I think, only four take count...

Spa: the track was not empty and didn't drive the same driver...
Laguna Seca: count (918 wins)
Algarve International Circuit (Portimao): count (P1 wins anyway)
Thermal Club Raceway: count (918 wins)
Goodwood Hill climb: 918 was in electric mode
Anglesey Coastal: 918 was with the top off... and P1, u know...
Autocar Wet Handling Track: wet
Autocar Dry Handling Track: two damp patches on P1's run
Silverstone (National Circuit): count (P1 wins)

There is one more thing - the Porsche has slightly wider tires all round. 265/325 vs. 245/315. And, this is a purely personal opinion, I believe the Michelin tire is a bit better than Pirelli's.

Anyway, let's hope there will be more tests like the one from Motor Trend on other tracks. Preferably with the Ferrari added to the group.

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Ironically, the 918 did not beat the P1 because of all the slow corners. Their apex speeds were very similar. The slight acceleration advantage of the 918 out of corners simply saved its ass from being monstered afterwards.

What the 918 really won is in braking zones. If look closely at the "speed advantage" graph below, every big chunk of time the 918 wins is in braking zones. And every time, the 918 can brake later. They say it's because the P1's braking system technology isn't as good as Porsches... well to be fair, they don't have ABS in Formula but they do have it in WEC and GT3 cars

The Mclaren is faster in a straight line, that's obvious. More power, lighter, DRS. Any drag race above 250kph, the 918 will lose, especially when the electric motors cut out.
In the real world, getting from A to B, the 918. On track, the 918 for most drivers.

But I agree with you on the Porsche being faster Today. If scoring system had less emphasis on straight line high speed acceleration times, it would also be reflected in scoring.

Verdict is not wrong, because, even though the straight line scores are much bigger in absolute numbers, the difference in them is what matters, and the difference in straight line score carries as much weight as the difference in track score.

Version 2 of fastestlaps will have different points calculation anyway :)

Note that the verdict is wrong, because straight line speed carries almost all points...