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Porsche 911 GT2 RS (991) specs

Car type Coupe
Curb weight 1470-1522 kg (3241-3355 lbs)
Power / weight 465 ps (459 bhp) / t
Torque / weight 499 Nm (368 lb-ft) / t
Introduced 2017
Origin country Germany
Average fuel consumption 11.8 l/100 km (20 mpg US / 24 mpg UK)
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Performance

Top speed 340 kph (211 mph)
0 - 40 kph 1.1 s
0 - 50 kph 1.2 s
0 - 100 kph 2.7 s
0 - 120 kph 3.8 s
0 - 130 kph 4.2 s
0 - 140 kph 4.7 s
0 - 150 kph 5.2 s
0 - 160 kph 5.5 s
0 - 180 kph 6.9 s
0 - 200 kph 7.9 s
0 - 250 kph 13.0 s
0 - 300 kph 22.1 s
0 - 60 mph 2.4 s
0 - 100 mph 5.8 s
Est. 1/8 mile 6.9 s @ 111.2 mph
1/4 mile 10.3 s @ 139.2 mph
Est. 1/2 mile 16.4 s @ 164.0 mph
1000 m 18.7 s @ 281.2 kph
Est. 100 - 200 kph 5.5 s
Est. 200 - 300 kph 13.8 s
100 kph - 0 29 m (96 ft)
200 kph - 0 115 m (376 ft)
300 kph - 0 243 m (796 ft)
18m slalom 76.5 kph (47.5 mph)
36m slalom 151.0 kph (93.8 mph)
Emissions 269 g/km
Porsche 911 GT2 RS acceleration graph

Powertrain

Engine type twin-turbocharged flat-6
Displacement 3.8 l (232 ci)
Power 700 ps (690 bhp / 515 kw) @ 7000 rpm
Torque 750 Nm (553 lb-ft) @ 2500 rpm
Power / liter 184 ps (182 hp)
Efficiency 59 PS per l/100 km
Transmission 7 speed dual clutch automatic (PDK)
Layout rear engine, rear wheel drive

Laptimes 9

911 GT2 RS rivals

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flt158  3d ago

I see Autocar magazine are giving the Porsche 911 GT2 RS their full road test treatment next week (18th July 2018).
I, for one, am looking forward to it.

flt 158


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Cahalin  2w ago

WOW, this S*** got hostile this mornin! LOL ..Couple things...on that acid green GT2RS, that's a PTS color, and thanks for sharing as Porsche said they were not doing any PTS's on this year's allocation...interesting. I race my GT3RS with POC/PCA, and nearly everyone has switched to Hoosiers (DOT approved), cutting nearly 2 seconds off lap times from my cup2's...for what it's worth :)


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Dave  2w ago

Circuit Bugatti

GT2 RS 1'44"35

Slower than the 488, 675 LT and almost 2 seconds slower than the Performante.

Source: Sport Auto France

 

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hostboy  4d ago

If it didn't have the Weissach package it'd be a lot slower


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hostboy  3w ago

PORSCHE GT2 RS (in article "Brutal Track Stars!") Road & Track 8/2018 issue acceleration test results: (1/4-mile: 10.0 s / 140.0 mph)
0-30 mph = 1.1 s
0-40 mph = 1.6 s
0-50 mph = 2.1 s
0-60 mph = 2.6 s
0-70 mph = 3.1 s
0-80 mph = 3.7 s
0-90 mph = 4.3 s
0-100 mph = 4.8 s
0-110 mph = 6.2 s
0-120 mph = 7.4 s
0-130 mph = 9.0 s
0-140 mph = 10.2 s
0-150 mph = 11.6 s
0-160 mph = 13.2 s

 

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Dave  2w ago

Fake news


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AlMillin  3d ago @Dave

Yep to claim that the GT2RS is quicker than the 720S from 60-100 mph is laughable...


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General Castilla  3w ago

according to spoof auto, the 700 hp power output sends 696 hp to the wheels and 780 nm lolololololol

definitely not underrated with zero bs in play :))

.....typical vw propaganda.....<< das auto phart!

and congrats to all the german fans for getting crushed by kim's neighbour lol

 

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hostboy  3w ago

Aren't you a girl named Rebecca? :/


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General Castilla  3w ago @hostboy

try some german meth, i hear it will turn you into a marvel superhero star, the only downside is you'll end up speaking english with a german accent and being on the aggressive side

https://img00.deviantart.net/9405/i/2010/305/3/f/****_egg_by_superchooken-d31xlqu.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG7GBGcABYQ


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manone  2w ago @General Castilla

Bhahahahahaa


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Tyrone1  2w ago

And yet everyone bashed the 720s for putting out more power. No one will bash this cos it is porsche ><


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Fastedee  3w ago

Fastest or 2nd fastest rwd launcher


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Dave  1m ago

Motosport Magazine Magny-Cours GP

720 S 1'47"05
Performante 1'47"52
GT2RS 1'48"74

Magny-Cours Club

720S 1'16"80
Performante 1'17"17
GT2RS 1'17"36

Imagine what the 7xx LT will do.

 

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moegigo  2w ago

Or what a 720at-the-wheel with race setup / cup tyres
would do


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Tyrone1  2w ago @moegigo

Rofl you refering to the mclaren or the porsche. Cos the GT2RS has been dynoed at almost 700whp.


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saxy  2w ago @Tyrone1

I doubt that being correct. The 720S is MUCH faster to 150mph. There’s no question the 720 has a significant power advantage, because it certainly doesn’t have a traction advantage


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hostboy  2w ago @saxy

Even the f****** ZR1 is faster than the GT2 RS


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saxy  2w ago @hostboy

No. The gt2rs gets to 155mph before the ZR1 ev n gets to 150 by 0.7s. 1/4 mike times the gt2rs is a full 1/2 second faster.
Please just stfu. You might as well get a new user name and start over again. Everyone knows how pathetic your posts are


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hostboy  2w ago @saxy

But the top speed is higher you racist white bigot


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Tyrone1  2w ago @saxy

  • power to weight advantage. It is a lighter car and it has far more sophisticated aerodynamics so less drag than that big wing.
    GT2rs makes more power than 700hp i guarantee it.

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saxy  2w ago @hostboy

At no point were we taking about top speed were we? Stfu idiot.


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saxy  2w ago @Tyrone1

The gt2rs May have more than 700hp but the 720s has way more still. Aero makes little difference up to 240kph. And under 150kph it’s all about traction with that kind of power


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Tyrone1  2w ago @saxy

683 at wheels vs 700 at wheels. Seems closer than most people suggest.
Also aero absolutely makes a difference even under 200.
there are loads of other reasons the 911 would accelerate slower. More camber on the wheels due to it being track orientated. Wider front and rear wheels increase rolling resistance... maybe the compound of tyre is more suited to cornering traction and less "off the line" traction (see Trofeo R vs Corsa)


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hostboy  2w ago

The GT2RS had no Weissach in that test


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manone  2w ago @Tyrone1

"Also aero absolutely makes a difference even under 200."

road cars with highest downforce have about 150kgs of it at 200kmh, but for the most efficient ones this comes at little/no expense of drag. However, 911s have a very low aero efficiency, and have to increase drag to achieve downforce.

"More camber on the wheels due to it being track orientated. " this could be the biggest factor in its marginally inferior acceleration performance.


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Tyrone1  2w ago @manone

This is what i meant. The 720s has efficient active aero, thus it has reduced drag compared to the big winged GT2RS even at lower speeds.


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saxy  2w ago @Tyrone1

Camber affects contact patch which affects acceleration at traction limited speeds. Pretty sure both cars are neck and neck up to 100kph, so camber has little to do with it. By 100mph the 720s is already way ahead. And besides, the gt2rs has more weight over the driven wheels. And also, camber is put mostly on the front wheels, not the driven wheels. The amount of drag of a car at 100kph is 10-15hp for a normal Car, 20hp for a high drag Car. Drag cannot explain the huge differences in acceleration. It’s more power + less weight + less aero.


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Tyrone1  2w ago @saxy

Saxy we know that it is mostly less weight more power and better aero. We are just discussing little differences which affect acceleration.
Negative camber will ALWAYS be a detriment to any form of straight line acceleration. At low speed you have less grip, at higher speed you have more rolling resistance thus slower acceleration and the latter is the case for both RWD and AWD.
Also wider tyres suck for acceleration at higher speeds which is probably why all Mclarens have seemingly narrow tyres compared to ferrari porsche and lambo. Surprise surprise, they have a better top end.

In this case Mclaren 720s has a far superior setup for Acceleration than the Porsche. All the arguments for good acceleration are on the Mclarens side, aside from the rear weight bias of the porsche.


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saxy  1w ago @Tyrone1

Nope. The 720s can actually have 10% more power given the estimates of 800hp seem to be check out by all levels and how it runs 9.9 1/4 miles. But the 720s can not be any where close to 10% lighter, which is nearly 150kg difference which it doesn’t.


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Tyrone1  1w ago @saxy

What are you actually saying "nope" to? there is no argument here. There is a gt2rs tested at 683hp at the wheels. Highest 720s i have found is around 700hp at the wheels. Roughly 20hp is not 10% by any stretch of the imagination.


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saxy  1m ago

2:31 at spa with some traffic. Not bad considering a GT3 car with slicks wins pole with 2:17.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImcnyrU9P6k

 

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vmax  1m ago

not stock


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hostboy  1m ago

[2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS] Evo Magazine 6/2018 test results:
0-30 mph = 2.0 s
0-40 mph = 2.5 s
0-50 mph = 3.0 s
0-60 mph = 3.5 s
0-70 mph = 3.9 s
0-80 mph = 4.4 s
0-90 mph = 5.1 s
0-100 mph = 5.7 s
0-110 mph = 6.6 s
0-120 mph = 7.5 s
0-130 mph = 8.9 s
0-140 mph = 10.1 s (1/4-mile: 11.2/144)
0-150 mph = 13.4 s
0-160 mph = 16.9 s
0-170 mph = 19.9 s (1000m: 19.9/170)
0-180 mph = 22.3 s
0-190 mph = 26.5 s
0-200 mph = 30.2 s

Anglesey Coastal Circuit: 1:08.6

 

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saxy  1m ago

Nearly 3 faster than a 720s, and faster than a Mclaren P1 GTR by 0.1s. Though this is a tight twisty circuit, that is impressive.


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Tyrone1  1m ago @saxy

Indeed, amazing mechanical grip. Bit dissapointed in the straightline acceleration though... Maybe they had the rear wing dialled up to the maximum.


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saxy  1m ago @Tyrone1

140mph in 10.1 seconds is hardly dissapointing. That 1/4 mile time has to be wrong. 5.7 to 100mph, 7.5 to 120mph is not going to take 11.2 to the 1/4 mile. Pretty sure that is 10.2 and not 11.2.


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Tyrone1  1m ago @saxy

Yeah 10.2 would make a lot more sense :D
I meant the acceleration at top end. 22.3 to 180 is a big drop off compared to something like 720s. As i said i think they have the maximum angle on the wing.


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General Castilla  1m ago

as expected, 0 to 300 is a complete joke :)

you're either going to stick to maximum downforce to prove a point for the fanboys and mag fans with fake lap times or just try to go back to normal setting to play catch up wit the big boys aiming for a quicker 0 to 300, but the bad news is the turbocharger which is still using the old vtg turbo with minor upgrade from almost 10 years ago which starts to get hot and boost gets dropped and adjusted accordingly to avoid blowing up the engine, this happens when you start pushing your luck and still have faith that vw product is super reliable and there's no pr0stitute when speaking of vw product with a different badge lol

https://i.imgur.com/IeIlF6h.jpg

taken from official spec sheet, not tough enough to mention the brand and model ? lol

Wheels and tyres
Wheels with tyres, front 9.5 J x 20 ET 50 with 265/35 ZR 20 sports tyres
Wheels with tyres, rear 12.5 J x 21 ET 48 with 325/30 ZR 21 sports tyres


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Tyrone1  1m ago @General Castilla

Yeah, its the setup. Theyve dialled it in for maximum corner grip for the anglessey racetrack (most likely camber and wing). The downside of not having active aero :)


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hostboy  1m ago @Tyrone1

The reason why it's 11.2 and not 10.2 is because of its poor launch to 30 and 60. The 2.0 0-30 and 3.5 0-60 are caused from the aerodynamics and gearing of the car. In fact the GT3 RS is quicker through a quarter-mile. The GT3 RS and the GT2 RS both ran Evo's 1/4-mile strip in 11.2 seconds. The trap speed difference between the two is 14 mph.


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saxy  1m ago @Tyrone1

That’s cuz it has downforce. That’s the whole point of this car.


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Tyrone1  1m ago @hostboy

Poor launch makes sense: 3.5 to 60 is shockingly slow. Tho i dont really believe aerodynamics will slow a car down that much at low speeds like 60mph.
It makes no sense however that the GT3RS is faster in the 1/4 or in any increment of acceleration. It is basically the same shape so aero goes out as an excuse, same kinda tyres, both RWD. It just sounds to me as though they messed up the launch.


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Dave  1m ago

I'm calling BS on this. Link please or scans.


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hostboy  1m ago @Dave

Go get a job you snowflake. Oh, I forgot, you go to a public college where liberalism, "democratic" socialism, communism, evolution, reverse racism/sexism, and poverty are taught.


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Dave  1m ago @hostboy

Link please


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hostboy  1m ago @Dave

When the tests come out, you can search them up


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Dave  1m ago @hostboy

So where did you get these figures? Did you just pull them out of your ass?


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hostboy  1m ago

[2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS] Motor Trend 6/2018 test results (to be published on "Track Monsters" page in 7/2018 issue):
0-30 mph = 1.2 s
0-40 mph = 1.6 s
0-50 mph = 2.2 s
0-60 mph = 2.7 s
0-70 mph = 3.3 s
0-80 mph = 4.0 s
0-90 mph = 4.7 s
0-100 mph = 5.5 s
1/4-mile = 10.3 s / 144.5 mph
Figure-8 = 21.9 s / 1.11 g
Willow Springs = 81.37 s

 

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Dave  1m ago

FAKE NEWS



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jeremy  1m ago

sport auto 6:58.28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl0HtR6MaXs

 

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General Castilla  1m ago

another (un)usual spoof auto test ? lol


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saxy  1m ago

So even without full factory support, factory driver and treated tires, the car still does sub 7. That’s impressive.


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manone  1m ago @saxy

we can be assured that, being sport auto, porsche sent full factory support AND treated tires AND who knows what real power figures AND zero had sandbagging.
this car is slower than a standard 720s, it is a total blow for porsche, that can rely just on their usual submitted magazines.


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Fastedee  1m ago @General Castilla

Spoof Auto....a brilliant turn of phrase. Don't forget AutoZeitung "Auto See Dung." LMAO.


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hostboy  1m ago @Fastedee

Hot Mao Zedong!!


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hostboy  1m ago @manone

720S doesn't even have a nurburgring time. Or at least not a professional ring time.


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Fastedee  1m ago

They drive so leisurely except in Porsches! At least they showed the Civic type R and Golf type R factory times as bogus


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Fastedee  1m ago @hostboy

Does 7:14 takin it easy ee ee ee zy...hopefully the sound of their own wheels ain't drivin Sport Auto Crazy.


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General Castilla  2m ago

the man i've always admired :)

https://www.wheels.ca/news/trump-to-ban-german-cars/

 

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hostboy  2m ago

Is this cosimo?


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General Castilla  1m ago @hostboy

cosimo has been promoted to a general and the war on big fat ass momma merkel and her goons is about to begin, the eu shall tumble because of one fugly looking hit_lerism ancestry with a pair of expired watermelons glued on to her chest :)

long live president trump!

http://img.wennermedia.com/social/rs-214720-Debate1.jpg


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hostboy  1m ago @General Castilla

You're cosimo


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Fastedee  1m ago @General Castilla

Merkel is a lovely gal and blanket préjudice is bogus; but VW and the German mags show their willingness to manipulate résults. You see cars from all over the world winning comparison tests in America but not in Germany.


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hostboy  1m ago @General Castilla

I love Trump, but to an extent. He's way more prejudiced and racist than Merkel. He's more like ****** Lite.


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Fastedee  1m ago @hostboy

Those European rightists like Merkel and the guy that quit in Britain are bland and sensible. The only thing crazy thing Gordie in Britain did was Brexit.Hopefully they realize low volume cars make a negligible contribution to the greenhouse effect and they can Build 10l 16 cylinder supercars.


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General Castilla  1m ago @Fastedee

did you know that if por-shee gets banned from entering the us, they will be announcing their bankruptcy within 1-2 years ? all those fake lap times all gone up in the air because of one stupid fat momma making the wrong decisions lol

are za germ(ans) really zat stupid ? or is it only angie merkel that stupid ? lol

merkel ? lovely ? you wanna bet ? cause she travels to persia every month to please her masters there and sign deals within billions of $$$, we do not know if she's doing anything nasty to get those papers signed or just the usual under the table deal with a handshake in front the cameras with smiles like their automaker lap times :)

http://mvslim.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/merkel-chador_3465403b.jpg

lately she started doing the chinese, fake getting along with a bigger fake

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-10/29/134764031_14461625688211n.jpg

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-LA128_beer1_G_20151030031534.jpg

since president trump started to take action, the old hag has decided to go the opposite way and build a new liberal team trying to group them all up over eu to stand against the united states policy lolololololol

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/03/17/20/donald-trump-angela-merkel-press-conference-1.jpg

that wall president trump is talking about between us and mehico, it should be built in the middle of germany and be called the merkel wall for opposing us policy

https://swh-826d.kxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/berlin-wall-1961.jpg

i hope she gets it the jfk way and the rest shall bow down.

this would be far more than enough to put an end to her corrupt party

https://cdni.rt.com/files/news/20/94/e0/00/4.jpg

mark my words, angie is going down very soon and those who are following her footsteps will be flushed out too.


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Josh  2m ago

you idiots arguing about cars you can't afford...suppose things never change. go have fun with a car you can afford and enjoy!

 

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FastestLaps  2m ago

How elitist lol


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saxy  2m ago

Lol, then why should any kid put up a poster of a supercar on his wall? Why should all those millions of people follow Ferrari’s IG?


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BR2+  2m ago

Im just curious ti know what we can afford?



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manone  1m ago @General Castilla

ahahaha atari



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Dave  2m ago

I wonder what time the non- Weissach package would set as every test and every lap time is set with this configuration. It would be interesting to quantify how much of an advantage it adds over the standard GT2 RS.

 

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hostboy  2m ago

7:49 at the ring


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hostboy  2m ago

1:02 slower at the ring than the weissach GT2 RS


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tommi95  2m ago

Kudos to McLaren, but Porsche is still remarkable! The Porsche has been tested with two tires so far, cup2N and cup2R. With the cup2N it set the Nurburgring record for a street car which is unbelievable. To those who say that with normal tires Porsche is not impressive at all, well I find it funny. At the Sachsenring the slowest laptime or 1. 28.5 is still absolutely remarkable, being able to outrun Mercedes Amg GT R, Lamborghini Huracan performante and McLaren 720s. So it's still impressive as ****. Porsche is slower than McLaren on a straighline, so with normal tires in a track like this that favors straight line performance McLaren won. No big deal, Porsche can lose too sometimes. Let's not forget McLaren'S chassis is entirely new and in carbon. Porsche is a modified version of a 911 whose chassis was created in 2011 and that only has some carbon elements. Besides Porsche is less powerful, so no surprises. I think they're both exceptional cars.

 

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Dave  2m ago

Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2 is the OE tire for the GT2 RS. Why haven't they set any lap times on this tire?


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LeWy  2m ago

New laptime by German car magazine 'auto motor und sport', GP track Hockenheim (4572 m)
GT2 RS: 1.49,1
720S: 1.48,2
GT2 RS on street tires.

 

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DrDuke  2m ago

gt2rs was on cup2
720s was on corsas


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BR2+  2m ago

Great if it did, kudos, People act like a lesser track car isnt supposed to beat a track car, Dont be mistaken, Every McLaren n Porsche is designed to rip up a track, some just less then others, You dont put racing technology into a car that wasnt designed to blitz a race track, same with active aero, And any form of competition tyre, Both those cars were designed to be the epitome of speed in acceleration and track.


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Dave  2m ago

Apparently the Corsa-shod 720S just blitzed the GT2 RS on stickier Cup 2's at the Hockenheim GP circuit by about a second per lap. It was also 4 seconds faster to 300 km/h. Looks like Porsche needs the extreme R prototype tire which isn't available yet and which requires tire blankets and a warm up lap to beat a 720 S on Corsas at Hockenheim.

 

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Worzty  2m ago

I remember the time when people used actual sources to back up these claims...
Anyway, I wouldn´t be surprised, the GP circuit favors the 720s superior straight line speed.
Then again, it wouldn´t matter anyway except it was an official test.


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Dave  2m ago @Worzty

Source AMuS.

I was surprised since the GP circuit has corners as well.


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Dave  2m ago @Worzty

http://www.mclarenlife.com/#/topics/89257


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saxy  2m ago

Pretty sure the now corsas are as sticky as normal cup2 .
Trofeo R ~ cup2 R


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BR2+  2m ago @saxy

Who knows, There was already a huge number of performance tyres available, Now with most companys going bespoke, As thdy dhould for special cars, its hard to keep up whats what


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Tyrone1  2m ago @Worzty

Makes a change to the mickey mouse tracks reviewers usually use dont you think? Good to see 700+ horsepower actually being used for a change.


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cosimo  3m ago

how come nobody kept us updated about this shameful incident that's capable of going under 6"59 minutes ? the one and only that's supposed to be your daily drive, easy to drive any time of the year, track weapon whenever you want to go faster than a lippisch p13a

and the paint color, was it dumped into black forest swamp before it was delivered ? i thought the bumble bee mix was ugly, but this one is closer to a baby's diarrhea gross mixed with cabbage :)

https://i.imgur.com/XPfUXRE.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PNBG4f1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Z3SGBYU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8hXhdrc.jpg

 

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Carfan  2m ago

Nobody reads you:
you are so dumb and obviously so unbiased...


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cosimo  3m ago

naughty marty lol

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43995167

  • Former Volkswagen chief executive Martin Winterkorn has been charged by US prosecutors in Detroit over the diesel emissions scandal.

  • Mr Winterkorn, 70, resigned soon after the scandal over polluting vehicles in the US erupted in September 2015.

  • He is the ninth person to be hit with US criminal charges connected to the emissions cheating scandal. Two have pleaded guilty and are serving time in prison.

  • Martin Winterkorn, who was in charge of the world's largest car maker during the period it installed cheat devices on millions of vehicles, has always maintained that he reported the illegal activity to authorities soon after becoming aware of it.

  • He is already in legal trouble in Stuttgart, where VW investors claim he sat on information of the scandal, which wiped billions off the company's market value, for more than a year.

typical na_zi move

  • But even if found guilty by US authorities, it's unlikely Mr Winterkorn, who resigned soon after the scandal broke in 2015, will ever see the inside of a US courtroom, much less prison, as Germany does not extradite its citizens.

  • Volkswagen pleaded guilty in March 2017 to criminal charges that it deceived US regulatory agencies, including the Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board, by installing so-called software defeat devices in diesel vehicles emissions control systems.

we already what always performs better in comparison tests :)))

  • The devices, which allowed vehicles to perform better in test conditions than they did on the road.

  • Mr Winterkorn, who became chief executive in 2007, has said he was unaware of the issue until shortly before it became public.

let's blame the german brewery and close the case and have vodka instead lol


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Carfan  3m ago

This conversation about the potential cheating of Porsche in achieving its diverse lap records is ridiculous. Every manufacturer is developing its own tyres for its sports cars. It is for instance very well known that for lap records, the Trofeo R was until now the best tyre available. Any track-day decent driver would know that a Porsche GT3 RS is able to achieve better lap times with the Trofeo R rather than with the Michelin Sport Cup 2 (N1). It is just a more extreme semi-slick road legal than the MSC2, and it is quite dangerous in wet conditions. The Huracan Performante achieved its record on the Nurburgring with such tyres. It is very conceivable that Michelin will have also a more exteme semi-click tyre very good in dry conditions like the Trofeo R. Hence the name Sport Cup R (racing).
Bottom line there is no point in being so agressive in the discussion towards Porsche. Dr Duke is right:
Both records of the recent GT2 RS were achieved with the new Michelin R tyre and there is no reason to be ashamed of this.

 

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Cosimo  3m ago

I was wrong about Porsche.

I have been found out as being a shill and now may face jail time for showing up to a member of this site's house with a knife.

I was always an avid defender of Mclaren (Who I found were afraid to take on the 918 Spyder) and the Nissan GTR (Especially the absolutely same spec as the customer car Nismo Nurburging destroyer), though with with criticizing and creating fake news about Porsche I have been unable to bear my hypocrisy.

I am sorry.

The little, passionate secret **** man who lives for fastestlaps.

I am burdened with my own guilt.


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Monolith29  3m ago

completely agree with you


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cosimo  3m ago

upon further inspection, some people have found out that por-shee is using low grade intercoolers that gets so heat soaked. no wonder they came up with the water sprinkler idea, to save time and money too, all thanks to mclaren for surprising them with the 720s which is a shock for the whole gt team :)

summer season will kick off soon and we'll see better results with fire carnage in my driveway started all by itself and random 9-11 holocausts in different regions, heat is not this cars best friend even with a slight change in outside temp lolololol

 

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cosimo  3m ago

Ignore this message, I typed this while listening to my Adolf speech collection and being high on meth amphetamines.


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BR2+  3m ago

It's like 2011 MondayBlues all over again, the good ole days of FL.


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Dave  3m ago

That Sachsenring should have a footnote.
It was achieved on Cup2 "R" tires. On the "N" version (used for the 'Ring time) it was 2 seconds slower 1:28.52.

Seems like cheating to me. 1:28.52 is by no means a stellar lap, about as fast as an AMG GT R, which is probably why they resorted to using the "R" compound since times are mostly not footnoted.

 

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DrDuke  3m ago

The nordschleife and the hockenheim short times were also driven on this new special tire "Cup2r".



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Dave  3m ago @DrDuke

If that's the case, what was the Hockenheim short time on the N-rated cup 2's?


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DrDuke  3m ago @Dave

It's all written in sport auto 1/18. They drove the hockenheim time.

by the way jalopnik is click bait trash.


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Dave  3m ago @DrDuke

Sorry. The "R" compound is a developmental tire not available as yet. The tire used for the 'Ring lap was the N spec. Road and Track conformed it as well. Autobild ran the lap at Hockenheim wit both, and the N spec was 2 seconds slower. Why would Porsche use a developmental tire for testing not sanctioned by themselves.? On the N spec tire, the lap times are not at all impressive.


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Dave  3m ago @Dave

Imagine that. Running laps on a tire that will be available in the future. Lol

Any other manufacturer guilty of the same conduct would be lampooned.
On the Cup2 N tire used to sat the 'Ring time (which is currently available) the GT2 RS is not that fast. So was the 'Ring time an anomaly or were there other tweaks to that particular car. The car certainly is not a record breaker on tires currently available.


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cosimo  3m ago @Dave

por-shee informers will soon send your details to one of their comandantes to make sure you no longer can speak or reveal anything related to cheating and exposing another one of their dirty little tricks they perform every time a new model with additional gizmos is added to the car.

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-02/29/14/enhanced/webdr04/enhanced-30412-1456774155-7.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K7JDLo-rL-E/maxresdefault.jpg


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DrDuke  3m ago @Dave

Sorry dave are you stupid? Do you know how a development process works? The product gets tested before sold. So your argument makes not much sense. Autobild drove on the Sachsenring not hockenheim - you are messing things up. And well do you really think the american magazine has the more accurate infos than the german porsche house magazine?

With a normal cup2 they wouldn't run below 7minutes with this car.

http://fastestlaps.com/articles/porsche-911-gt2-rs-sets-new-hockenheim-record-beats-huracn-performante

In this thread you find other people claiming the same as I do...


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Everyonelovescars  3m ago @DrDuke

To answer everyone’s question we will all just have to wait for a neutral party to have the pista, performante, 720s, zr1, gtr, Ford gt and the 2rs all at the same track, same day, same driver and all ordered stock! I’m sure someone will at least have the performante, 720s and the 2rs all going against each other! Time will tell! Anything newer that comes out is for the next group to battle out!


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Dave  3m ago @DrDuke

Ok, why don't you prove to us how clever you are and provide facts, not conjecture, that the 'Ring time was run on this Prototype "R" tire which isn't currently available. It was run on the N spec tire. Since when is Sport auto and Autobild responsible for Porsche development.

On the N spec Cup 2 the times are less than spectacular. The R spec prototype tire is 2 seconds faster and any car running the same tire would have a similar advantage.


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DrDuke  3m ago @Dave

IMG_0279.png

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/porsche-911-gt2-rs-nordschleifen-rekord-nuerburgring-2017/

Porsche-911-GT2-RS-2017-Rundenrekord-Nor

I made this picture more bright for you:
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Do you see the tread pattern? This is not a normal cup2 N2

Here the picture of the cup2r from autobild sportscar:
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looks like the tire mounted on the NOS car

later in the autobild article its written that they used the cup2r on the nos record lap:
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Dave  3m ago @DrDuke

Ha ha. Surely you jest. Show me the nomenclature on the tire or you're just wasting my time. I can't extrapolate the Tire spec by looking at at it. Porsche says they used the Standard Cup2 tires. Car and Driver says so, but you're adamant that's not the case.

Ok then.

Ha ha. The article that you pfovided clearly states the N2 spec was used and that a more extreme version will be available in the Spring.


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Dave  3m ago @DrDuke

Your translation must be off. It states the record run on the Nordschleife was done using the more civilized Cup2.

Concede man.


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DrDuke  3m ago @Dave

German is my native language bro

"Die Rekordrunde auf der Nordschleife wurde in der Endphase der Entwicklung einem speziellen Trackreifen gefahren, der erst in wenigen Wochen, voraussichtlich Anfang Juni, erhältlich sein wird. Dieser sogenannte Cup2R hat dem serienmässigen cup2-semislick eine etwas spärlichere Profilierung unv vor allem die viel weichere Mischung voraus"

This means: the record lap on the nos was driven with cup2r. This tire will be avaiable in june. Compared to the normal cup2 it has less profile and a softer compound.


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Dave  3m ago @DrDuke

Ok. You just don't get it do you. Will this settle it?

Read Porsche's official Press release at the bottom of the page:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/the-911-gt2-rs-lapped-the-nurburgring-how-fast-ar177720.amp.html

Dispute this


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DrDuke  3m ago @Dave

yeah they write michelin pilot cup 2 - could be every spec of the michelin pilot cup 2. It would be something else if they wrote MPS cup 2 N2, R or what ever. Road and Track and top speed made an article from a press release.

The 2 german magazines - I reference to - have driven the car with the cup 2 r and the tire is mounted on the record car at the NOS. For sure these journalist talked to the Porsche development team. I think these guys who develop the car knows it better than the Porsche press office.

Besides your weak arguments - does it make sense to you that porsche is developing (and paying for it) a special tire with super grip and don't use it for their track records? Makes no sense bro.

The only reason the cup 2 r exists is for breaking lap records.


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cosimo  3m ago @DrDuke

"The only reason the cup 2 r exists is for breaking lap records."

duh! we already know that and it's called the cheating tires that por-shee always uses to get their times published through trustworthy german magazines that never criticize them with the highest score possible.


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DrDuke  3m ago @cosimo

During the conversation with dave, I got the impression that the purpose of these tires isn't clear to him.


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Dave  3m ago @DrDuke

Your arguments are even weaker. So by your admission they could have used a cut slick as well, as long as it says Michelin Cup2 nomenclatuee on it. That's weak and extremely evasive on Porsche's part.
You still haven't provided irrefutable proof that the tire used on the Nordschleife run was the R compound. I quoted many sources which dispute what you're saying and you're completely dismissive of it. But you don't hold your sources to the same scrutiny. That's real grown up of you.

Let's assume that the record lap was set one this special R compound as you state, what does that say about that lap time? Firstly you cannot purchase that tire currently. Perhaps you can direct me a dealer that's offering them to the public. That record time can only be attributed to that tire. Secondly, what would the time be on the Dunlops or the Cup2 N2 the car comes with? I'd wager over 7 minutes or close to it.

Without the R compound, the GT2 RS is not that special. It's a fast car, but nothing spectacular.


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DrDuke  3m ago @Dave

Well everything escalated with the Z06 - they had the first special tire for their product called Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 ZP.

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And here you have a normal cup2

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Then the AMG GT R uses the same tire.

And now Porsche made their own super tire. I didn't try to order one but maybe you can have them already as factory equipment but you can't buy them until june (as stated in autobild) at your tire shop.


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Monolith29  3m ago @DrDuke

are you talking about the dunlop sport maxx race 2 tires?


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Lord J  3m ago @Dave

I seen an article where they will be running good year tires......it's something fishy there


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DrDuke  3m ago @Monolith29

for the gt2rs you can have 2 different michelins cup2 and the dunlop


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cosimo  3m ago @DrDuke

Your clickbait trash you n4zi scum.

http://www.eunews.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Merkel-indica.jpg


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DrDuke  3m ago @cosimo

Help yourself buddy! Why don't you try out an anger management course?
https://www.angerclassonline.com/Assessment.aspx


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Roush Power  3m ago @DrDuke

That's not the real cosi, more like an imposter.


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manone  3m ago

what is the "Efficiency 59 PS per l/100 km" metric?


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BR2+  4m ago

Only a second faster? That ZO6 should have gotten killed, And with a manual? More to the point, they shouldn't even be comparing the 2 cars

 

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saxy  4m ago

The Z06 has much better tires


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Dave  4m ago @saxy

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r/867970-991-gt3-tire-test-dunlop-vs-michelin.html

There you go. On the same car the Dunlops fitted on the Porsche are faster than the PS2's the Corvette comes with.


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saxy  3m ago @Dave

That’s BS, because the record run at the Nurburgring was on cup2 tires. As well, according to your link, the normal supersport is better than the cup2?

The simplest comparison is a look at braking performance which is mostly reliant on tire grip. The Z06 had WAY more grip.


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BR2+  3m ago @saxy

I don't think it has better tyres, there slightly bigger, but I highly doubt there grippier then GT2 tyres, but braking may be, Given Corvettes have arguably the best brakes in the world, Or maybe since the vette the has been out for almost 2 years, the driver may have more experience with the car, and the GT2 literally just came out, or is just harder to drive, plus it beat the Performante by 2s on a slightly shorter track, and that had awd with trofeos and a dct so there's no way it's just a typical tyre debate.


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Dave  3m ago @saxy

Three times the price, on tires that are a match for Cup 2's, lighter, more horsepower, DCT, and that ridiculous rear wing and it can barely beat a manual Z06 that's a few years old.


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Everyonelovescars   3m ago @Dave

I don’t trust this time, something sounds fishy with it. The gt2 is way faster on the ring and way quicker hock. And two seconds faster than the performante. Maybe the driver is sandbanging a bit for the 2rs, it doesn’t make sense! I don’t know why they would also have Dunlop tires on too when the car is Spec’d with Sport cup 2s that mich. developed with Porsche specifically for the car.


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BR2+  3m ago @Everyonelovescars

You cant use ring times against other times, Those are company times with WAY more time and preparation, And usually alot of unknowns.

I also find it a bit weird, That in that article, It has the C7 price as 119,700, Yet it performs and is pictured with the ZO7? But thats a 12,000 option, So the price should be 131,700...

And i also figures the GT2 was running on MPSC2s, But its on DSMR2s? I dont see a point in having 2 tyre types for that type of car, But either way, I dont see much difference in grip between the C7 And GT2s tyres, Unless theres something i dunno, But either way i expected the GT2 to be around 3 or more seconds faster, Like i dont care much, kudos to the Z for being awesome, But expected it to get killed, But its not like there isnt one weird or "Slow' laptime for every car since all have 1, So meh.


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saxy  3m ago @BR2+

Vettes have good brakes but Porsche’s do too. The difference could never be in the meters difference. We all know the Vette has the stickiest Michelin’s you can get and it’s likely the same tires that are optioned on the Gt2RS. Like you said, the GT2 RS with the cup tires beat the performante easily, and also beat the Z06 by miles. Suddenly this just doesn’t add up. And again, the difference in brake performance is the best indicator between these two cars which have similar weight, downforce and pedigree of racing.


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Kentuckiboi  3m ago @BR2+

Exactly


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Monolith29  3m ago @Dave

agreed, the gt2 rs stops from 100-0 in 29m and z06 in 28m. also the slalom shows the gt2 rs is much quicker than the z06. statistics alone the chevette wins in braking.. and that seems to be it other than the price. Dunlop Sport Maxx Race tires of our test car (265/35ZR-20s at the front, 325/30ZR-21s at the rear) are what were used for the record 6:47 run.


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Monolith29  3m ago @BR2+

MPSC2 and MPSS treadwear ratings are 180 and 300 respectively verses 80 for the Dunlop Sport Maxx Race. For reference, Pirelli Trofeo R treadwear rating is 60.... so the dunlops are very close to trofeo r's.


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cosimo  3m ago @Monolith29

"so the dunlops are very close to trofeo r's."

how else could you expect a por-shee to win ? play fair for instance ? lol

that 1 second difference says a lot vs not being able to beat the chevy in braking despite the weight advantage for the porky :)

maybe, someone forgot to pour in tap water with bricks of ice to achieve the supposed maximum 700 hp ? lolololol


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Monolith29  3m ago @cosimo

you keep talking about 1 track, and still the porsche wins like it will on every other track. even the 2016 gt3 rs beats the z06 at MRLS and thats 493hp vs 650hp and the ''por-shee'' has just over half the torque. with randy pobst driving both, and im not talking about the z06 they recieved from chevy that didnt even have a properly working supercharger... lol, but the one pobst said ''finally some boost''


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BR2+  3m ago @Monolith29

Do not base a tyre grip solely on treadwear that is not an indication of pure grip, And The ZO6 is a good deal faster then a 991.1 GT3RS, That 1s is both a lot, and not enough, if the GT2 had the best tyres available and the wessaisacchisse package, along with its dct, weight n power advantage, it should have destroyed the ZO6, But didn't, braking alone isn't everything.


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cosimo  3m ago @Monolith29

two new details i have found out on some german boards.

the water tank seems to run out quite fast if the car is pushed hard and and led light comes on informing you of power loss! loll with 2 l's

a cocky german customer took his car to the track and thought his overpriced carrera will put a smirk on his face making it too easy for him to pass everyone with that fake temporary 700 hp under his right leg and all the bs redesigned vw golf kit strapped on to a base carrera, guess what happened ? it ended up catching fire bowahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

are they giving out any special gloves or do we need to check them out through their accessory tequipment department ? lolololol

https://melonauto.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/809858d1393292246991gt3areburningupgt3gloves1395250140.jpg

that water tank should've been used for these kind of situations instead of increasing the power for merely a lap or two before the whole system dries up and begs you for a refill or the engine will detonate and force you to stop and place another order for a new car lol

http://cdn7.bigcommerce.com/s-mcqm8ni8zk/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/138/43463/456f3104dd8872c489bfb52fc9e876bc319b993da1813cd8b2d754ad4de6f10a__46593.1500922495.jpg

when they had a closer look inside the engine that you cost you over 300k loll, they found out a broken con-rod was the cause. hahahahahahahahahahaha bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha bowahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

welcome to vw engineering, gotta love this so called german engineering that can't be beaten.

this puts them (vw with a porky badge) on par with gm, in terms of quality and fastest lap times achieved on different tracks, it's just that gm beats it in pricing by 10:1 with an optional manual gearbox and less intrusive fugly kits that belong on walmart carts.

the zr1 in the right hands should annihilate it, not a compliment but a fact :))

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/chevrolet/na/us/english/index/vehicles/2019/performance/corvette-zr1/colorizer/01-images/2019-corvette-zr1-coupe-3zr-gba-colorizer.jpg

i know it's painful for some of the fanboys out there to believe what i just wrote, but fake is fake no matter how you put it, whether you announce 700 hp, 800 hp or 1000 hp, on the dyno it puts down close to 680 whp and when you run out of water you'll be closer to a gt3 rs performance, that's half the price what you paid for and for half the time. hence how murican cars operate lol

face of a fraud chairman that would like to thank you for spending over 300k on a 9-11 attack on the track lol

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/12/23/business/23porsche.xlarge1.jpg

it would've been more appropriate if he had switched the photo behind him with mr adolf bitter


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cosimo  3m ago @cosimo

one other info, chevy sent a car with a manual box. that alone should tell you this pos 9-11 is the most overhyped beetle in their lineup :)


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Dave  4m ago

Mireval lap time 1:27.56

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dedethecollector/27395285368/in/album-72157667491311038/

Barely a second faster than the C7 Z06

0-200 km/h 8.5 seconds

Source

Autobild

 

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tyler  4m ago

I just added the laptimes.


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Dave  4m ago

And the Corvette was manual. The Auto would have been faster.


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rhs1992  4m ago

Test on AutoZeitung for GT2 RS. Best numbers so far.
0-100 in 2.7s
0-200 in 7.9s
Real weight is 1522kg

 

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hostboy  4m ago

Impressive! 812 Superfast territory!


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cosimo  4m ago

isn't this porker supposed to be lightweight with all the bs carbon paper and wackjob package ?

there was another test where it hardly beat an outdated z06 by a sec.

that's the price of wasting over 300k on a jumbled up body kit glued on to a base carrera that can hardly beat a chevy within one second only lololololololol

https://pics.me.me/jingle-the-eu-merkel-is-insane-smells-bells-ambassador-putin-9823271.png


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cosimo  4m ago @hostboy

don't think so hotsausage.....

0-200: 8,5

unless they're pushing over 700, which is the norm cheat mode with por-shee cars in general


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manone  4m ago @cosimo

"polska all the way" ahahahahaha


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Monolith29  3m ago

and the gt2 rs weiss. pkg. is 1470kg, the vette is fairly quick but its big drawback is how much it starts slowing down after 200kmh similarly like the acr but the z06 has half the downforce but 2nd best breaking from 60-0, first being the acr and the gt2 rs i think is tied for 3rd


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hostboy  3m ago @cosimo

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