Calabogie Motorsports Park lap times

Rank Vehicle Driver Time
1. Ford GT (Mk II) unknown 2:09.80
2. McLaren 675LT unknown 2:10.80
3. Ferrari 458 Speciale unknown 2:12.90
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Calabogie Motorsports Park

Calabogie Motorsports Park is a racing venue in Canada with 3 laptimes.This page represents the 5.0 kilometer (3.1 mile) configuration of this track.

Calabogie Motorsports Park is a moderately fast track, with overall average speed of 139 kph (86 mph).


Country Canada
Track length 5.05 km / 3.14 miles
Track record 2:09.8 (Ford GT (Mk II))
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Filip Bertrand  4m ago

https://youtu.be/QSWdPl3ufoc
Here the new Record for Calabogie.

1:52.014 by Bruno Saint-Jacques in a radical.


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sroser  6m ago

So would Ford. Why do you think they BOUGHT the 675 and 458 Speciale in first place? To sandbag and make themselves "feel good" about how competition "looks slower" than their product?
Of course they ran those cars as hard as they could during their testing. Whether they published genuine laptimes or not - I think it would be pretty sad if they artifically added time to competition laptimes just for a better press release.
Maybe I am naive.

Just a little. They probably did run them hard, but that doesn't mean the times they published are legit times from when they were running them hard.

 

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RRT  2w ago

To be honest, the best "proof" of these times being legit is actually the silence from Ferrari and McLaren about the times. I do think, if they were thinking that their cars got fake times, there would be scream to Heaven about that. Since I don't see Ferrari or McLaren moaning about this, I think we can call the times legit. I just can't imagine them to sit silent if they got even slight doubt about it ...


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sroser  6m ago

I disagree. I think manufacturers are to be regarded as "trusted sources". The same way as car magazines. If manufacturers can't be regarded as "trusted parties" than we cannot even publish things like engine power and torque...

Well it's kind of humorous you should mention power and torque. Some quoted power and torque figures are like 10% out and I can give examples if you like. The 570S springs to mind for instance.

Magazines are independent, manufacturers aren't, therefore they're less likely to be biased, although I do say 'less' likely. A manufacturer on the other hand has every incentive in the world to BS.

If the times are legit, no worries, independent testing will show the same thing right? So no need to include them.


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FastestLaps  6m ago

Difference is the random privateer would very likely try his or her best to drive a time that makes his car proud.

So would Ford. Why do you think they BOUGHT the 675 and 458 Speciale in first place? To sandbag and make themselves "feel good" about how competition "looks slower" than their product?

Of course they ran those cars as hard as they could during their testing. Whether they published genuine laptimes or not - I think it would be pretty sad if they artifically added time to competition laptimes just for a better press release.

Maybe I am naive.


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FastestLaps  6m ago

I disagree. I think manufacturers are to be regarded as "trusted sources". The same way as car magazines. If manufacturers can't be regarded as "trusted parties" than we cannot even publish things like engine power and torque...


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saxy  6m ago

Difference is the random privateer would very likely try his or her best to drive a time that makes his car proud.

Ford on the other hand have every incentive to drive 8 or 9 tenths.


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sroser  6m ago

Yes frankly. Like I said, get the opinions of a few other people on this. If you allow it now, pretty soon every manufacturer will be doing it.


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FastestLaps  6m ago

Are Ferrari 458 and McLaren 675 laptimes that Ford has measured under their testing program and guarantee that were tested on street tyres with no performance-enhancing mods LESS credible than laptimes derived from some random onboard YouTube video a privateer?


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sroser  6m ago

How are those different and less trustworthy than laptimes for their own vehicles?

a) We insist that manufacturer's times should are backed up by video.

b) A manufacturer has a vested interest in making their car look faster for obvious reasons, and the driver is on their payroll and aside from that, they have way more experience in the vehicle of that manufacturer.

You can ask for BR2, saxy and manone to share their opinion on this too if you like. We rarely agree as you know, but on this I think we will.


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FastestLaps  6m ago

How are those different and less trustworthy than laptimes for their own vehicles?


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sroser  6m ago

Are we really adding lap times claimed by manufacturers on vehicles that aren't made by them, with zero supporting evidence?

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